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Old 07-07-2008, 04:03 PM
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Posted By: Dan Bretta

Apparently there is an Iroquois museum there with an exhibit on Native Americans and baseball there. I would love to hear from anyone who has visited this exhibit as it has a section on the barnstorming teams including Guy W. Green's Nebraska Indians.

Here's a story on the exhibit: http://www.dailygazette.com/news/2008/mar/23/0323_indianbball/

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Old 07-07-2008, 04:22 PM
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I live about 45 minutes away and have never heard of it. I'll have to check it out.

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Old 07-08-2008, 08:41 AM
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I have a summer place near Cooperstown and Howes Cave is a nice side trip if you are ever visiting there. It is only about 45 minutes away. I remember seeing a sign for the Indian museum but didn't realize it might have a baseball exhibit. Sounds like it would be worth giving up an afternoon of fishing to check it out. As an aside, I recently attended an antiquarian book fair in Cooperstown. The only piece of interest to me was a copy of Green's book "Fun and Frolic With an Indian Base Ball Team", an interesting read.

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Old 07-08-2008, 09:29 AM
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Posted By: Dan Bretta

Tom, was the book a reprint or an original copy? Did you pick it up?

I'm looking for a copy of that book that is NOT a 4th edition. I've yet to see one.

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It is an original and in pretty rough shape. I will check the edition and post a photo if possible.

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I'm one of three guys at this screen ID (ever lurking, rarely posting), and as it happens, I visited the Iroquois Museum on my way back from Cooperstown just a couple of weeks ago. I came away very impressed. "We came for the baseball, but stayed for the art and culture."

The baseball exhibit seemed a bit sparse, but maybe that's just an aftereffect of having visited the HOF two days earlier. It's a bit uneven as well, with a few things well-documented, others not so much, but that's probably inevitable when much of the exhibit (the best parts, I think) focusses on Native American amateur and semi-pro teams from 75 or 100 years ago, and there's not a lot to go on in terms of available documentation. That said, it's a very good exhibition, well worth a visit, obligatory I think if you're at the HOF anyway (Howe's Cave is just a few minutes up the road from Cooperstown). The museum is a beautiful facility. The rest of their extensive displays, covering a wide range of Native American history, culture, and art, is pretty spectacular, and kept us there for hours.

Immediately thought of Dan, upon encountering a large framed photo of the Nebraska Indians. Other photos and artifacts there held special local interest for myself and my website cronies (Western New Yorkers). Eye-opening (but perhaps not surprising, after all) how many former ML'ers can claim some Native American blood. Chief Bender's hand-carved bat is almost scary.

The museum website is here:
http://www.IroquoisMuseum.org

There's a link there to a good NY Times article about the exhibit:
http://tinyurl.com/5am74z

We'll also be posting some photos of the exhibit at our own website today or tomorrow.

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

Thanks for posting about your experience at the museum Butch. I heard back from the museum curator today and she sent me a photo of the exhibit. She said they would like to put together a catalog of the exhibit if they can get the funding to do so.

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