Isa graders?

[CMIZ5290]

Does anyone have opinions or thoughts about this new grading service? I must admit, some of there recent cards on ebay look very strictly graded....still very skeptical however.

[novakjr]

Have they given any trimmed cards an 8 yet?

[Peter_Spaeth]

On an ebay search, the first card that comes up is an ISA 9 33 Goudey. That was enough for me.

[sycks22]

ISA isn't new, it's been around for a couple years. I wouldn't trust them.

[VOTC]

I know the owner personally. Jason Koonce. Former PSA employee. Was unhappy with some aspects of PSA decided he could do it better. I trust them

[bobbyw8469]

You may trust them, but the general public doesn't.

[pclpads]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Does anyone have opinions or thoughts about this new grading service? I must admit, some of there recent cards on ebay look very strictly graded....still very skeptical however.

If you are looking to slab vintage and want to maximize your investment, why go to a start-up? Stick w/ PSA or SGC.

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by pclpads

If you are looking to slab vintage and want to maximize your investment, why go to a start-up? Stick w/ PSA or SGC.

because they were startups once too. why would you ever go with sgc, when psa started their card grading service first? how did sgc get off the ground if people just said "why go with sgc, stick w/psa?

[pclpads]

Originally Posted by travrosty

because they were startups once too. why would you ever go with sgc, when psa started their card grading service first? how did sgc get off the ground if people just said "why go with sgc, stick w/psa?

Maybe you missed this earlier post: "On an ebay search, the first card that comes up is an ISA 9 33 Goudey. That was enough for me."

My post was obviously over your head. The point is, PSA & SGC now have years of cred. So, why go to a newer, unproven? When PSA & SGC started, what was the slab competition . . . CSA, PRO, KSA?? I'd take my chances on a PSA or SGC slab any day of the week over the same card in a ISA slab. What are you, a flack for ISA?

[buymycards]

I was surprised to see a full page ad in SCD this week. $7 per card for 2 day service.

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by pclpads

Maybe you missed this earlier post: "On an ebay search, the first card that comes up is an ISA 9 33 Goudey. That was enough for me."

My post was obviously over your head. The point is, PSA & SGC now have years of cred. So, why go to a newer, unproven? When PSA & SGC started, what was the slab competition . . . CSA, PRO, KSA?? I'd take my chances on a PSA or SGC slab any day of the week over the same card in a ISA slab. What are you, a flack for ISA?

no, i had never heard of them before, i just reject out of the hand the old argument that a new startup cant be trusted, then no one would have trusted sgc, because psa was already up and running by then, so why take a chance on sgc.

you are suggesting psa and sgc opened at the same time, and they didnt - psa started first, please correct me if i am in error.

same with autographs, people will say - "why go with someone other than psa or jsa.

well, when jsa started, where were those people saying "why go with someone other than psa?"

no startup would or could succeed following that line of reasoning.

[drc]

It's true that people in the hobby can be automatically dismissive about the new and different. I've noticed that through the years.

[pclpads]

Originally Posted by travrosty

no, i had never heard of them before, i just reject out of the hand the old argument that a new startup cant be trusted, then no one would have trusted sgc, because psa was already up and running by then, so why take a chance on sgc.

you are suggesting psa and sgc opened at the same time, and they didnt - psa started first, please correct me if i am in error.

same with autographs, people will say - "why go with someone other than psa or jsa.

well, when jsa started, where were those people saying "why go with someone other than psa?"

no startup would or could succeed following that line of reasoning.

So, if you had a '52T Mantle, your grading co. of choice would be ISA and you really believe that would maximize the value over the same card in a PSA or SGC slab?

[rocarroll]

Originally Posted by travrosty

no, i had never heard of them before, i just reject out of the hand the old argument that a new startup cant be trusted, then no one would have trusted sgc, because psa was already up and running by then, so why take a chance on sgc.

you are suggesting psa and sgc opened at the same time, and they didnt - psa started first, please correct me if i am in error.

same with autographs, people will say - "why go with someone other than psa or jsa.

well, when jsa started, where were those people saying "why go with someone other than psa?"

no startup would or could succeed following that line of reasoning.

That may be true, but I don't want to be the guinea pig for them. Especially considering the fact I'm only saving $3 over SGC. No thanks but best of luck to you on that.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by travrosty

because they were startups once too. why would you ever go with sgc, when psa started their card grading service first? how did sgc get off the ground if people just said "why go with sgc, stick w/psa?

True. Maybe they're great guys. Maybe they do things the right way. Maybe they aren't greedy bastards who just care about money.

[brewing]

Uh, they could advertise. A booth at the National perhaps. A social media presence maybe. A popular sports card message board could work.
None of these are cost prohibitive. The lack of doing so is bad business. The lack of business sense from TPGers is astounding.