Wagner Bought on eBay for under $200 (video)

[chernieto]

Originally Posted by Brian Van Horn

There's suspense about this?!

Suspense or not I find it very interesting.
Great detective work.

[Sean]

I never understand how these clowns think that they can sell a "Wagner" for $500,000 without any documentation. Do they think that everyone is as stupid as them?

When I said "they" I was including Cobb + Edwards.

[chipperhank44]

Wish I could have been there when the "local experts" were looking at it. Would love to see their method of authentication.

[The Nasty Nati]

This card is as fake as Dolly Parton's tits. I hope someone reaches out to this buyer before he goes on a crazy spending spree.

Not mad about the news coverage though, any exposure to vintage cards is good exposure.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by The Nasty Nati

This card is as fake as Dolly Parton's tits. I hope someone reaches out to this buyer before he goes on a crazy spending spree.

Not mad about the news coverage though, any exposure to vintage cards is good exposure.

Seriously? I really thought her boobs were real? I mean I really did?

[Ladder7]

Originally Posted by The Nasty Nati

This card is as fake as Dolly Parton's tits

Keepin it classy!

[callou2131]

Well Jason mars has now deleted his facebook account. On this someone from blowout called sgc to inquire about the card. Their response... "Yeah we got it. It was a terrible fake" looms like his scam didn't work and he is now trying to dissapear.

[Sean]

I'm sure he'll resurface with a new ebay account and some more crappy reprints.

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

It is hard for me to believe he has ever dealt with a t206 based off the video. The video has him going through a binder of newer "shiney" cards and then stops to point out a card that is "40 years old", if he gets excited to point out a 70's card than I doubt he sees, let alone owns, any pre war cards.

Andy, in all fairness, consider who he's talking to. Some random news guy. The average tv viewer has maybe heard of the T206 Honus Wagner, the Gretzky Wagner. And that's probably about it. To a non hobbyist, a 40 year old card seems old.

I have a binder full of shiny modern cards. I get excited by 40 year old cards. My 1973 Topps Roberto Clemente is one of my favorite cards. I'm collecting the 1975 Topps set in high grade.

And I have pre-war cards.

[the 'stache]

"Yeah, we've got a word for "that old man wanted to give away a $400,000 baseball card for $200" kinda odd in the English language. It's called suspicious."

Originally Posted by MW1

Update: It was an old man just wanting to get rid of it. He didn't care about money:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152454916018043

[toledo_mudhen]

Dolly Parton - Not Real??? Seriously???

Guys - I ve looked at em with a loupe and they ARE real...........

[btcarfagno]

Originally Posted by toledo_mudhen

Dolly Parton - Not Real??? Seriously???

Guys - I ve looked at em with a loupe and they ARE real...........

Those are the kinds of things you really need to get a feel for. Hold them in your hands. Get a sense for now they feel to better judge if real or not. Tough to tell from a photo.

Know what I mean?

Tom C

[auggiedoggy]

Originally Posted by jbhofmann

http://www.mynews4.com/news/story/Sp...0NwE8.facebook

Quick! Send it off to ACA for authentication!!!

[Jeffrompa]

May be AKA .

[bn2cardz]

Well you can still buy it from of Craigslist:

http://reno.craigslist.org/clt/4666936243.html

[auggiedoggy]

Originally Posted by Jeffrompa

May be AKA .

Never heard of AKA but ACA was the grading company that graded the Cobb-Edwards Wagner.

[auggiedoggy]

Originally Posted by auggiedoggy

Never heard of AKA but ACA was the grading company that graded the Cobb-Edwards Wagner.

And .... if you go to their web site and search their pop report for Wagner you now get the following message:

"Trading card removed from the database after review. The latest analysis shows that the cyan ink used to print the card dates from the 30s".

[Jeffrompa]

i should have said AKC as in the American Kennel Club for that dog of a card

[Tabe]

Edit: Never mind.

[callou2131]

Just an update, speaking to the reporter, mars gave the reporter permission to contact sgc to find out what happened, then he quickly took that permission away and refuses to allow sgc to speak to the reporter covering the story. He is still selling it on craigslist and claiming it to be 100% real. Isn't that fraud?

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by callou2131

Just an update, speaking to the reporter, mars gave the reporter permission to contact sgc to find out what happened, then he quickly took that permission away and refuses to allow sgc to speak to the reporter covering the story. He is still selling it on craigslist and claiming it to be 100% real. Isn't that fraud?

He is already a proven scammer, I hope the new outs him for it:

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

...And anyone who thinks he is just a poor sucker that doesn't know what he is doing here is the evidence that he buys reprints to resell:

Bought Aug 18th a Gehrig listed as a reprint for $10.50:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-LOU-GEH...item1e9026c6f0

Then sells the same card Sept 6th missing any info about it being a reprint for $48.50:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Baseball-car...p2047675.l2557

[glynparson]

to the Reno Nevada police department. Maybe others should do this as well. I let them know this was not just an ordinary fake baseball card but that it's value if real was hundreds of thousands of dollars. I gave them the info of SGC where the card was submitted so they could give them a call.

[callou2131]

We told the news guy abouth that other reprint as well. He is aware of that too. This may get interesting.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by callou2131

We told the news guy abouth that other reprint as well. He is aware of that too. This may get interesting.

Tonto said it best: "What do you mean “we”, Paleface?"

[callou2131]

There is a few of us from blowout providing info to the reporter.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by callou2131

There is a few of us from blowout providing info to the reporter.

Are you referring to the messages on Facebook (in response to him bragging about doing the story in 3 hours)? If so that was me that notified him.

I also emailed all the people in in the "contact us" list from the news station. Which I suggest everyone do. I know this is just another thing that is obvious to us collectors, but this story showed a total disregard to investigative reporting.

[callou2131]

Yup, buit he was told via pm before that.