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Old 08-20-2008, 04:52 PM
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Posted By: Scott M.

I am still searching for high resolution images of the Cobb and Doyle fans from this series to help complete a short article that I wrote for Old Cardboard magazine but, in the meantime, I thought I would share some information that I recently came across regarding this beautiful issue.







These fans have traditionally been listed in the SCD catalog as a 1910 issue and generally attributed to the American Tobacco Company.

This makes sense as you can make out a faint copyright statement on the lower portion of the fan when it is magnified but it is still hard to make out the exact year.



After doing a little research on the issue, I happened to luck out and find the following advertisements which show that the fans were only available for a limited time during the summer of 1913 (not 1910 as listed in the Standard Catalog) and also that these premiums can be directly attributed to the sale of Bull Durham Tobacco.

http://home.comcast.net/~croftscocoa/misc/1913_06_18_Mansfield_Ohio_Fan_Ad.pdf

http://home.comcast.net/~croftscocoa/misc/1913_07_31_Grand_Forks_Daily_Herald_Fan_Ad.pdf

I've already passed this information along to Don at SCD but thought the forum might enjoy the information and advertisements as well.

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Posted By: jay wolt

Scott - Great stuff!
I enjoyed seeing your fans in person a couple of months ago.
Looking forward to the article.

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Posted By: Jeremy W.

That is the kind of information that money can't buy. You should also post this on the memorabilia site if you haven't already. Thanks again.

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Posted By: Marty Ogelvie

great stuff indeed.. love that Prince Hal fan!!!

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Posted By: Joe Brennan

Great stuff Scott. I really would be interested in how you came across the ads in your research. Was it a stumble or did you look at countless baseball ads or tobacco ads?

In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982. Dad, thanks for everything you did for me.

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Posted By: leon

great stuff and thanks for sharing.....best regards

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Posted By: J Levine

I wonder if I can contact Mr. Clark or Mr. Burnett and still get my shipment of Fans?

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So the fans were actually tobacco premiums...interesting. We can now catalog them a T-Unc.s, and they will suddenly morph into baseball cards.

Edited to add I was not aware they were already attributed to the ATC.

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Posted By: Clint

I once missed out on a rppc of a cigar store interior. There were about 10 Mathewson Fan For a Fan Fans in the store. It was truly an awesome postcard. I would say it was definately tobacco related.

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

Nice work Scott! So are all those Durham tobacco pouches I see all the time going to start commanding a premium?

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Sorry for resurrecting such an old thread.

I know it is a long shot but since there are a lot of collectors out there who mostly lurk and only post occasionally, such as myself, I thought that I'd take a chance and see if there is anyone out there who has the Cobb and/or Doyle fans from this issue that wouldn't mind sharing some high resolution scans of either or both of those fans?

I'd really like to add good high resolution images of those two examples to the other three fans which I have access to in order to complete a gallery of the images (in better resolution than what I've displayed above) and maybe even revisit submitting an article to Lyman from Old Cardboard magazine which I had started a couple of years ago on the issue.

If someone can help me out but would rather not post on this thread, I'd be happy to receive the scans (anonymously if you wish) to my email address of phlflyer1@comcast.net.

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Those are just awesome. I'd love to have 'em in my memorabilia room.
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