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Burdick, Buck Barker and Corson letters
Posted By: leon
Since there are a lot of new board members lately I feel some might like to see these letters I acquired. They are from the Walt Corson collection (who sold his collection to Frank Nagy) and was one of the hobby pioneers....they are large so can be read easier...enjoy... |
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Burdick, Buck Barker and Corson letters
Posted By: barrysloate
Besides the obvious error under T206 citing the Cobb with Hustler back, also note that there appears to be an addendum just above T205 which notes missing Blair and Wood, neither of whom are in the set but are end panels in T202. Could he have thought at that time that because of the shared design, T202 and T205 contained the same checklist of players? |
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Burdick, Buck Barker and Corson letters
Posted By: Dan Koteles
coulds you imagine what they would give to the chatboard. Some of it looks similar in conversation here at times. |
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Posted By: anthony
i didnt notice before but i like how "buck" refers to the pitcher in the "cincinnati reds uniform"...pretty neat |
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Posted By: robert a
Perhaps the t206 portion refers to the uncertainty of whether or not the ty cobb and hustler backs belong to the set. |
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Posted By: Larry
This was a great and productive post, these historical letters are fabulous, anymore of them Leon???? |
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Posted By: paulstratton
Cool stuff. Any idea how much of this correspondence is still floating around out there? |
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Burdick, Buck Barker and Corson letters
Posted By: leon
Mr.Corson passed away in about 1960. The index card is a small part of his checklists but one I feel is most relevent to this board. I will probably put the rest on my website soon....under the personal collection at |
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Burdick, Buck Barker and Corson letters
Posted By: JimB
Barry, |
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Burdick, Buck Barker and Corson letters
Posted By: mark macrae
Great post Leon. The way I interpret the file card is that it looks like a combination want-list / have-list. Many collectors from the pre-computer age carried around similar notecards. In the earlier checklists (prior to the 1970's) , Hustler was listed among the T-206 backs. Since no modern collector can support the existance of a Hustler backed T-206, it's probably a safe assumption that this was either an innocent typo from many years ago, or that a 'paste-over' was discovered at some point (perhaps in the 30's), similar to the T-206 Wagner batting pose which was discovered by Frank Nagy & Dick Reuss in the mid 1970's. Initial close examination (i.e professional opinion of the time) determined that it was authentic, until Nagy or Reuss decided to toss it in a tub of water and voila, 2 seperate pieces soaked apart.... How many people would have the 'guts' to try THAT today if an authentic looking T-206 Hall of Famer with a Hustler back turned up..... |
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Posted By: barrysloate
You are correct Jim, he was listing two backs. I read through it too quickly. |
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Posted By: John S
I recently acquired this 1928 Anonymous (possibly Star) Candy issue of Rube Wagner. On the reverse is Burdick's short description "first I ever saw probably unlisted candy card". The card was purchased from an individual who bought the card from Burdick in the early 60's. |
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Posted By: Dylan
Ive always wondered if a T206 ever was discovered with a hustler back what kind of excitement and price it would generate on the market, any guesses? |
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Burdick, Buck Barker and Corson letters
Posted By: Joann
Hey Leon - know what would be kind of a cool companion piece to the first letter? A set of the 10 K134 Columbus cards. From their titles they sound like they could be cool cards, and only 10 needed to match the list in the letter. |
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Posted By: Randy Trierweiler
I had the honor of knowing Mr. Barker. I started collecting in 1968 and by the mid 1970s, the St. Louis Sports Collectors group was in its infancy. We would meet a couple times a year at the Holiday Inn in Edwardsville, IL. Later the group moved to the St. Louis side as interest really grew in Sports Collectibles. Mr. Barker was a legend back then. He was the answer man when cards surfaced that nobody could identify. I was only 15 years old at the time and quite nervous about striking up a conversation with him. He put me at ease right away. I told him I was working on a 1963 Fleer Baseball set and couldn't find the checklist. I told him I've never even seen one. He said he thought he had an extra one laying around and would send it to me. A week later I got the checklist in the mail. No note or anything, just a free 1963 Fleer checklist. I probably saw him 10 more times before he died. He always remembered my name and would ask what sets I was working on. Whatever the set was, he gave me tons of information on the set. He was a virtual walking baseball card encyclopedia. In the mid to late 1970s, he would walk in to the St. Louis shows a couple hours after they opened with a shoebox or two of cards. The entire floor would flock over to his table to see what he had. Hunter Weiners, T206s, T202s, caramels, regionals, you name it. Some things you may not know about Mr. Barker: He died on November 24, 1982 from complications of gall bladder surgery and a removal of a tumor. He rode his bike for 37 years to his job as an Engineering Supervisor at the National Lead-Titanium Pigment Division in St. Louis. He was a dog lover and often gave them dog biscuits when riding his bike to work. He was a great man. Randy Trierweiler |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Randy- that's a great story and I am sure those are memories you will keep forever. When you described the work he did and that he died of a tumor I couldn't help but make a connection between the two. But what a way to grow up in the baseball card hobby. |
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Posted By: Randy Trierweiler
Hi Barry, it really was a great way to "grow up" in the hobby. I was fortunate to have a role model like Buck Barker. He was respected by everybody, kind of like you are, around here. The 1970s were a fun time for me. I had a column in "Sports Collectors News" an SCD type newspaper before SCD was born. It was called "Randy's Ramblings". I wrote an article in 1976 on-get this-TOO MANY SETS BEING ISSUED!. I lost those back issues in a move many years ago. I haven't been able to find them since. Any other veterans here remember "Sports Collectors News"? Mike Bondarenko was the publisher, from Wisconsin. |
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield
Thanks for sharing that letter. It is like looking at the stone tablet version of the Ten Commandments. |
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Posted By: Rich Klein
And I hate to use this a BST trade (sorry Leon) -- but one of the few things in my life I regret selling was a Post Cereal card from the Barker collection which he had written his name on it. If you have any of those cards reasonably priced (after you find them); I'd love to purchase one |
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Posted By: leon
Great story. I really wish I could have met some of these hobby pioneers. I am sure they did it for the love of the game and because they loved collecting with friends. |
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Posted By: Randy Trierweiler
Hi Leon, "For love of the Game" is right. I tried to follow Buck Barkers lead. When setting up as a dealer in St. Louis in the early 1980s, I always tried to spend some time with the younger collectors and answer their questions, just as Buck treated me. |
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Posted By: Harry Wallace (HW)
Wow. What a great post you guys. Thanks for sharing the scans and the stories. |
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Posted By: Ed Ford
The Buck Barker legacy lives on. Randy is modern day role model for hobbyists. Many years ago he tracked me down as I was his chief rival for much of the oddball Cardinal material at various shows, ads etc. Long story short, I now consider him my best friend both inside the hobby and out. We have shared so many wonderful experiences cheering on and collecting cards of our favorite team. Point is that there are currently many wonderful people/friends in this hobby that may even rival the legends. |
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Posted By: jay wolt
RANDY - since you're an old school St Louis card guy. |
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Burdick, Buck Barker and Corson letters
Posted By: Randy Trierweiler
Ed, thanks for the warm comments. My feelings are the same as yours. |
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Burdick, Buck Barker and Corson letters
Posted By: Rich Klein
Shows that Mimi passed on (not sure of exactly when) |
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