T210 Red Border Portraits

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Posted By: paulstratton

I know this is an extremely large set, but it doesn't seem to have an enormous amount of portraits from what I have seen. I have Manion and Lipe. What other portraits are out there? Is there a list somewhere? I think it would be an attractive subset to put together.

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Posted By: Zach Rice

Hi Paul,

I am also very fond of the portraits that appear in the T210 set. I have started to collect a little outside of my normal T210 collecting habits (strictly series 2) and begun to collect portraits. So far i've only grabbed up two but I haven't really pursued them too much. They really do make for an amazing looking card. The series 6 Paris players are amongst my favorite as well as the series 6 Frankfort players. I can't help you with how many portaits there are total in the set, though action poses seem much more prevalent.

Since we're already on T210s, does anyone else find it extremely odd that out of over 600 cards only one is horizontal ? I guess I don't find it strange that there are so few horizontals, as some sets have zero, but only including one is a bit odd. You would think that if they decided to make one horizontal card that they would have included a few more.

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

I'm close to having series 6 complete. Here are the 5 portraits I have... and I'm fairly certain these 5, Angermeir, Cornell, Hoffman, Kuhlmann, and Scheneberg, they are the only portraits in series 6.

I'd love to see more.

Frank W.

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Posted By: paulstratton

So we're talking maybe 40-50 portraits total? Thanks for posting those so far.

Who is the one horizontal Zach?

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Posted By: Zach Rice

I just got finished browsing all of my T210 images. Here are the portraits I could find. More likely exist, but these are undoubtfully the majority of them in the set.

Angermeir
Cornell
Cowman
Crable
Hill
Hise
Hoffman
Hooker
Hornsby
Kaphan
Kuhlmann
Lipe
Merritt
Messitt
Neuton
Northen
Pressly
Revelle
Riley
Scheneberg
Schrader
Spangler
Watson
Wickenhofer


I can't remember the name of the only horizontal card in the set, although he does appear in the third series.

Edited to add that the Hornsby mentioned above (series 3) is or I guess was Rogers Hornsby's older brother.

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Posted By: James Feagin

My two represenatatives......

Schrader



and....

Wickenhofer

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Posted By: Zach Rice

Thanks James. Both of those are beautiful cards. I guess I forgot the Wickenhofer as I know the image of the card well and have owned one before. Another player that needs to be added is Watson.

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Posted By: John

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Posted By: Joe D.

but add malloy to the list

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Posted By: paulstratton

I made a mistake, I have Schrader and not Lipe. I think I have seen Lipe though, same shot as t206. I would leave it out unless someone else has seen one. Add Corkhill as I found an image of his. By my count it is up to 26. Only 1 in series 1. 6 in series 2. 14 in series 3. 5 in series 6. No portraits in series 4,5,7,8 yet. It looks as though the whole Houston team could be portraits with only Bell, Carlin and Rose uncomfirmed out of 12 total.

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Posted By: Dave

Add Breivogel to the list. Here's the three I have:

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Posted By: Rhett Yeakley

A few more to add...
Series 1-Manion
Series 3-Bell
Series 7-Cowell
Series 8-Foster, Dick, Hart

The horizontal in Series 3 is Morris.
Rogers' brother with Houston was Everett Hornsby.

-Rhett

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Posted By: paulstratton

Looking at the Erbe book it seems the following are probables for a portrait version, as they have 2 cards in the set.

Series 1
Lee(Macon)

Series 2
Smith(Lynchburg)

Series 3
Smith(Shreveport)

Series 5
Corbett(Anderson)
Roth(Spartanburg)

Series 6
Goostree(Winchester)

Series 7
Gastmeyer(Rocky Mount)

Series 8
Thomas(Montgomery)
DeMontreville(New Orleans)

Approximately 40 total if these are verified.

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

Add Phillips Montgomery Series 8 to the list...


Be well Brian

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

Hey Paul, What is the Erbe book????

Goostree in T210 series 6 has 2 cards, one of him standing with his hands behind his back, the other leaning on a bat (and I dearly want to buy the one with the bat). Here's the former version, and it is not a portrait.




I have a few other T210s with portraits. Had more, but sold and traded them so I could focus on series 6. Manion is in series 1, Messitt and Revelle are in series 2, and Whiteman is in series 8.
Dutch Revelle was an interesting pitcher, it seems he was always just on the edge of making a major league team as the spring training and tour wound down, he'd pitch one of the last games, and then get cut from the squad.




Please tell me more about Erbe.... thanks.

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Posted By: paulstratton

Frank,

The American Premium Guide to Baseball Cards by Ron Erbe. Although the book is from 1982, I use it quite a bit for checklists. The OJ checklists are really good.

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

Thank you, Paul. I've just ordered a used copy off of ABE.

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

So we need someone to go back through all of this, and create a corrected list of the portrait cards...

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Posted By: Zach Rice

Hi Frank,

I created one a few days ago with each player, their team, and what series the player is in. I will post it later this afternoon. In the meantime, any other T210 portraits not listed above out there ?

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Posted By: paulstratton

So far I have counted 37 confirmed portraits. Please add or subtract if you have a different list. There are other probables but let's try to keep editing this list because it gets confusing(at least for me it does).

Series 1

JACKSONVILLE-Manion
MACON-Lipe

Series 2

DANVILLE-Hooker, Schrader
LYNCHBURG-Breivogel
PORTSMOUTH-Cowan
RICHMOND-Messitt, Revelle
ROANOKE-Neuton, Presley

Series 3

GALVESTON-Cable(Crable), Kaphan, Riley, Spangler
HOUSTON-Bell, Church, Corkhill, Hill, Horsnby, Malloy, Merritt, Northern, Watson, Wichendorfer
SHREVEPORT-Cowan

Series 4(none so far)

Series 5(none so far)

Series 6

FRANKFORT-Angermeir, Hoffman
PARIS-Kuhlman, Scheneberg
WINCHESTER-Cornell

Series 7

WILSON-Cowell

Series 8

MEMPHIS-Dick
MONTGOMERY-Hart, Phillips, Whiteman, Greminger
NEW ORLEANS-Doster

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Posted By: Mark

I have one Series 3 and three Series 8 - all non-portrait.
Funny, I never realized it until now.

Mark

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Posted By: Jay

I can add from my duplicates:Lipe-Macon(series 1); Cowan-Portsmouth(series 2) and Greminger-Montgomery(series 8).

BTW, the following duplicates are available if anyone is working on portraits:

Series 1-Lipe
Series 2-Pressly,Neuton,Cowan,Breivogel
Series 3-Bell,Merritt,Corkhill,Wickenhoffer,Riley
Series 7-Cowell
Series 8-Hart,Greminger

My email address is oldjudge@gmail.com

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Posted By: martindl

Heres the horizontal Murray. Not mine but from a group of scans I'd saved.