Ty Cobb 1911 D304 General Bakery, "Star Breads" Card

[Skrubinski]

I recently obtained a Ty Cobb D304 card at the bottom of an estate box, along with several other older cards such as Babe Ruth 181 etc.. my question, as I am not a collector and I have gone through the expense of having them rated from SGC, is where is the best place to determine a value as none of the sites have this card priced, they have the Braunner (SP) card listed. I expect grading back tomorrow and as I stated I am not a collector so I am trying to make sure that I don't get screwed over by one of these "collector" sites or by an auction company.. Any feed back much appreciated.

[vintagecpa]

Originally Posted by Skrubinski

... I expect grading back tomorrow....

I think I would wait another day before getting too worked up.

[ullmandds]

probably fake...post some scans.

[e107collector]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

probably fake...post some scans.

+1 - I hope for your sake they are authentic. Please keep us posted.

Tony

[Leon]

Originally Posted by vintagecpa

I think I would wait another day before getting too worked up.

The chances of those 2 cards being in the same box, and being real, are slim to none. But good luck to the OP nonetheless.....

[Sean1125]

Best of luck on authenticity. Here is picture of a couple of my D304's for reference.

[Skrubinski]

thanks for the input, so far multiple "experts" has said they are not fake but that is why I am having them graded.. They are the General Baking with the Star breads on the back, quality on the ty cobb has no creases, only slightly rounded corners.. they passed every test the local shops tied, 20x magnifier to look at printing, checked with black light, but if they are real then great if fake, then like the shop I took them to said, they are damn good.. I found 12 other high end different cards and before you ask, this was from someone estate that passed away.

[Skrubinski]

not posting a scan as the graded versions will be done tomorrow, so if they are real, I will post the graded version, if they are fake, then so be it.

[Skrubinski]

Originally Posted by vintagecpa

I think I would wait another day before getting too worked up.

not to excited, really don't care either way for me, I have very little invested in the box of junk they were in.

[ullmandds]

if u post scans we can tell you if they are real today!!!!
c/mon...you know u can't wait!!!!

[Skrubinski]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

if u post scans we can tell you if they are real today!!!!
c/mon...you know u can't wait!!!!

not sure how you will be able to tell better than "Just Collect" whom seem to think authentic, they have pictures of it already, I am not a collector.. I have taken them to several local reputable companies in the area that handle high end cards they all said same thing, if forgeries, the best forgeries they have seem and based on the quality, and I agree, that they needed to be looked at by experts.. BUT, if they are real, and when they are graded, I will gladly post a picture and the information.

[Skrubinski]

Originally Posted by Leon

The chances of those 2 cards being in the same box, and being real, are slim to none. But good luck to the OP nonetheless.....

I am hoping all 15 vintage cards are real.. lo.l

[BobbyVCP]

What was the name of the person you dealt with at JC?

[gnaz01]

You can look up on SGC website and see if they got graded or not.

[joeadcock]

Any chance we can see one scan?

[Skrubinski]

I have pictures of them in the screw downs, was afraid to take them out.. had a local collector take them out.. I will post in a while.

[ullmandds]

screw downs!!!!...this is getting good!!!

[Skrubinski]

Here is one picture

[Skrubinski]

Second pic. Trying to figure how to post.

[Skrubinski]

The local shops checked the printing and all the normal test but really don't care tomorrow will know if real or not from professionals. The screw downs are really scratched

[Skrubinski]

Yes the picture looks like ink /glue. Not real uniform in jewlers loop and printing is solid block

[Leon]

100% fake.....

[ullmandds]

hmmm...agreed...it looks pretty good.

The lack of detail on cobb's face(pink rosy cheeks)...as compared to the other authentic copies is a concern to me.

I will be curious to see the outcome...I hope they are real for your sake!

[Leon]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

hmmm...agreed...it looks pretty good.

The lack of detail on cobb's face(pink rosy cheeks)...as compared to the other authentic copies is a concern to me.

I will be curious to see the outcome...I hope they are real for your sake!

It looks awful.....hideous actually. Look at the color of the edges and the uniformity in the rounding of the corners. Corners don't wear like that. A beginner could see that it's a reprint.

[ullmandds]

send me the dunce cap and I'll go sit in the corner for a while!!!! in my defense I've never owned a d304!!!!

[Skrubinski]

Leon. I would love to know your basis. Jealousy or ignorance. I don't remember asking for opinions on real or not that's sgc if fake then no big deal. If real Then great.

[Skrubinski]

And if your wrong Leon that makes you what a freaking idiot

[Skrubinski]

Does Leon own one. I can show you three cards that have rounded corners and btw not uniform at all. You know what this is waste of my time dealing with idiots like Leon. Asked a question. Not trying to sell and unless I see Leon's name on a professional grading his opinion is worthless

[JoeyF1981]

Originally Posted by Skrubinski

Does Leon own one. I can show you three cards that have rounded corners and btw not uniform at all. You know what this is waste of my time dealing with idiots like Leon. Asked a question. Not trying to sell and unless I see Leon's name on a professional grading his opinion is worthless

Leon has tons of knowledge and youre on here making a a$$ outta yourself when he gave you his honest opinion. He's right the corners are not from average wear. somebody purposely did that and if you had any sense at all youd listen to the experts on here instead of getting so defensive because youre realizing theres a very good chance theyre not authentic

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Skrubinski

Does Leon own one. I can show you three cards that have rounded corners and btw not uniform at all. You know what this is waste of my time dealing with idiots like Leon. Asked a question. Not trying to sell and unless I see Leon's name on a professional grading his opinion is worthless

Dig your hole a bit deeper my friend....here is mine...I told you a few posts up why but you are too busy being ignorant. I am only 100% sure of what I am saying so there is still some room for error .

[calvindog]

That Cobb is obviously fake.

[calvindog]

REA's magnets look more authentic than that Cobb.

[Skrubinski]

Originally Posted by Leon

Dig your hole a bit deeper my friend....here is mine...I told you a few posts up why but you are too busy being ignorant. I am only 100% sure of what I am saying so there is still some room for error .

If it's fake fine but are you willing to put your card on the line

[Bocabirdman]

Originally Posted by Leon

Dig your hole a bit deeper my friend....here is mine...I told you a few posts up why but you are too busy being ignorant. I am only 100% sure of what I am saying so there is still some room for error .

Leon, this card is not "yucky"

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Skrubinski

If it's fake fine but are you willing to put your card on the line

Are you such a small asshole that you truly can't handle experts telling you that a few thousand dollar card is fake?

[Bocabirdman]

I got them in screwdowns .

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[Leon]

Originally Posted by Skrubinski

If it's fake fine but are you willing to put your card on the line

Sure if yours is real then you can have mine. Yours is fake. Don't take it personally. BTW, I may not be an expert but my name is in the front of the Krause Baseball Price guide and the Beckett price guide as a contributor....is yours?

[Skrubinski]

I never asked for "experts" opinions that's why I sent it to sgc. I have 100.00 in to the whole box from the estate. The true experts are looking at it now. I've had individuals that own very large stores that deal in these collectables handle this card in person yet this "expert" can tell thru scratched plastic that has all kinds of crap on it can tell hmmm.

[Skrubinski]

I never claimed to be what I'm not but my name is in multiple professional journals does not make me a professional on it all. Tomorrow sgc will complete grading if real I'll gladly post as well as if fake

[Skrubinski]

Few thousand dollar card? Ok.

[Paul S]

Originally Posted by Skrubinski

I never asked for "experts" opinions that's why I sent it to sgc.

Wha'?!

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by Skrubinski

You know what this is waste of my time dealing with idiots like Leon.

LL, ban this guy!!!

[Bocabirdman]

Originally Posted by Skrubinski

Few thousand dollar card? Ok.

Here is a link for an FUGLY example for $1500

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1911-1914-D3...item3cda535d3a

[pencil1974]

Sorry late to the show, let me get my popcorn ready, hold on...

OK continue...

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by pencil1974

Sorry late to the show, let me get my popcorn ready, hold on...

OK continue...

LOL

[sebie43]

If Leon is an "idiot" idk what the hell that makes me

[Bocabirdman]

Originally Posted by gnaz01

LL, ban this guy!!!

18 posts and already his head is being called for......Not a record but damn impressive none the less.

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by Bocabirdman

18 posts and already his head is being called for......Not a record but damn impressive none the less.

I know Mike, but a noob calling Leon an idiot? Just gets my Italian temper up!

[nsaddict]

The Cobb in the screw down is an obvious fake. I would guess 90% of "local shops" would be clueless to the Cobb. "Estate sales" turn out to be fakes more times than not. The OP seems to be quite arrogant, shouldn't his name be posted too?

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Bocabirdman

18 posts and already his head is being called for......Not a record but damn impressive none the less.

He's over the 15/day limit at 15.02 currently.