Rare Honus Wagner cards

[darwinbulldog]

Probably we've done this one already, but for old times' sake and for the newer collectors, let's put together a list of rare Honus Wagner cards. Let's say anything with at least 1 confirmed copy but with fewer than 50 examples so no one tries to list you know what.

I'll start.

D381 (Fleischmann).

[sportscardpete]

E104-2 is a tricky one.

[brianp-beme]

1910 E-Unc Orange Border - both poses

Brian

[Casey2296]

1910 E98. Technically over 50 if you add all 4 colors together but broken out there are less than 50 graded of each color between the two companies, there are some that aren't labeled with a color so there may be more than 50 reds but not by much.
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[mrreality68]

Here are 2 Rare Wagner with less then 10 of each I believe or fewer if you count Postcards that is

1908 Rose Co PC
1908 American League Publishing Company PC

[Rhotchkiss]

Here is link to my Wagner collection, almost all of which have 50 or less known copies.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/156271...57703230513722

I have posted a few here because pictures are nice:

[Yoda]

To find the Mino Honus is a true odyssey.

[mrreality68]

All Great Cards Ryan

But there is something Special About that Harper Whiskey Card

[x2drich2000]

IMO, only the most common Wagners would not fit the pop of less than 50. The T206 is actually quite plentiful compared to most Wagners. For truly rare Wagners I would say it should be 10 or less. This is one of my favorites.

[sb1]

Only Wagner from this issue known...

[sb1]

Another non-card toughie

[phlflyer1]

1910 Dockman All Star Baseball

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by Yoda

To find the Mino Honus is a true odyssey.

MINOs

Also a 1 of 1 Menagerie back (a mistake), and a blank back for Wayne

[Andy Baran]

E107 Breisch Williams

[mordecaibrown1]

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by sb1

Only Wagner from this issue known...

Scott, what is that?

[DeanH3]

[BobC]

E103 Williams Caramel

[yanksfan09]

Originally Posted by darwinbulldog

Probably we've done this one already, but for old times' sake and for the newer collectors, let's put together a list of rare Honus Wagner cards. Let's say anything with at least 1 confirmed copy but with fewer than 50 examples so no one tries to list you know what.

I'll start.

D381 (Fleischmann).

. .

[molenick]

My contribution.

[gabrinus]

Great cards everyone...Ryan those are awesome...E92 Nadja Wagner and D303 Mother's Bread Wagner(which I used to own) are very rare as well...Jerry

[LOUCARDFAN]

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[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Here is link to my Wagner collection, almost all of which have 50 or less known copies.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/156271...57703230513722

I have posted a few here because pictures are nice:

Love the Colgan’s Proof! I was wondering who had the other one.

[Vintagedeputy]

Here’s my lone contribution.

[edhans]

No longer mine.

[LOUCARDFAN]

Not a card but very proud to own. JF Hillerich & Son advertising envelope mailed to Wagner himself just after signing an endorsement deal with the bat maker. I took it down to Hillerich & Bradsby and they didn’t know one existed.


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[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by LOUCARDFAN

Not a card but very proud to own. JF Hillerich & Son advertising envelope mailed to Wagner himself just after signing an endorsement deal with the bat maker. I took it down to Hillerich & Bradsby and they didn’t know one existed.


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thats awesome!

[pcoz]

Here are a couple, E-UNC is 1 of 2 known, and Voskamps have around a half dozen.

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

MINOs

Also a 1 of 1 Menagerie back (a mistake), and a blank back for Wayne

We are not worthy. Still looking for either but would prefer the throwing. What a group of Wags. Well done.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by pcoz

Here are a couple, E-UNC is 1 of 2 known, and Voskamps have around a half dozen.

Great cards Pete

I appreciate you hold them for me

[pitchernut]

I'm sure many frown on these, but hey unless the person ripped the page out and send it to them, how else would the publisher know which team to send? I'm pretty sure there are less than 40 copies of the W601 and or the 1906 Sporting Life NL pocket schedule.

[pcoz]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

Great cards Pete

I appreciate you hold them for me

Lol!! Thanks and sounds good Jeff!


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[brianp-beme]

Some great tough Wags shown. Here is a link to a thread I started 10 years ago which had plenty of input from collectors about this subject (over multiple years):

https://net54baseball.com/showthread...ghlight=wagner


And for those who get a little squeamish at the thought of your eyes glazing over a longer thread, below is the most updated listing seen within the thread that lists the various perceived levels of availability of Honus cards (for the most part the list consists of what I consider cards, as I don't have a good feel on items outside of normal card range). Feel free to suggest updates...I see some that I might consider shifting.


Definitely more Common:

1913 Barker Game
1909/11 Colgans E254
1915 Cracker Jack
1909/11 E90-1 batting and throwing
1910 E91-C
1909 E92 Dockman batting and fielding
1910 E93
1909 E95
1910 E98
1906 Fan Craze NL
1910/11 M116 blue
1910/11 M116 pastel
1913 National Game
1914 Polo Grounds Game


Around the same as the T206 Wagner:

1914 Cracker Jack
D322 Tip-top
E90-2
E94
E102 batting
M101-4 Sporting News and blank backs


Probably less the the T206 Wagner:

D304 General Baking and Brunner's backs
E101 batting and fielding poses
E103
E135 Collins McCarthy and blank backs


Definitely less than the T206:

All Star Baseball
Baseball Bats
D304 all backs besides General Baking and Brunner's
D381 Fleischman/Ferguson Bakery
E92 Crofts Candy both poses
E92 Crofts Cocoa both poses
E92 Nadja both poses
E102 fielding
E104-2
E105 Mello-Mint
E106 American Caramel both poses
E107
E125 American Caramel both poses
E135 all associated backs except Collins McCarthy and blank
E270 Tin Tops
E271 Darby Chocolates
E286 Ju-Ju Drums
E300 Plows Candy
J + K
M101-4 (all backs except for Sporting News and Blank)
M101-5 (all backs)
M110
M131 Baltimore Newsboy
Orange Border batting and portrait
Reccius Icky Bob
T5
T216 Kotton, Mino and Virginia Extra (all variations)
Texas Tommy type 1 and 2
Voskamps
W555
W600 both
W-Unc 1912
Postcards: Rose Co, American League Pub, Novelty Cutlery, Vignette

Heck if I know:

BF2 Pennants
M101-2
M101-2 w/Cobb


Brian

[puckpaul]

The National Copper Plate and the Sporting News M101-1 rookie issues are among the rarest.

[Republicaninmass]

Family owned portrait was listed on n54..one of one

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

Some great tough Wags shown. Here is a link to a thread I started 10 years ago which had plenty of input from collectors about this subject (over multiple years):

https://net54baseball.com/showthread...ghlight=wagner


And for those who get a little squeamish at the thought of your eyes glazing over a longer thread, below is the most updated listing seen within the thread that lists the various perceived levels of availability of Honus cards (for the most part the list consists of what I consider cards, as I don't have a good feel on items outside of normal card range). Feel free to suggest updates...I see some that I might consider shifting.


Definitely more Common:

1913 Barker Game
1909/11 Colgans E254
1915 Cracker Jack
1909/11 E90-1 batting and throwing
1910 E91-C
1909 E92 Dockman batting and fielding
1910 E93
1909 E95
1910 E98
1906 Fan Craze NL
1910/11 M116 blue
1910/11 M116 pastel
1913 National Game
1914 Polo Grounds Game


Around the same as the T206 Wagner:

1914 Cracker Jack
D322 Tip-top
E90-2
E94
E102 batting
M101-4 Sporting News and blank backs


Probably less the the T206 Wagner:

D304 General Baking and Brunner's backs
E101 batting and fielding poses
E103
E135 Collins McCarthy and blank backs


Definitely less than the T206:

All Star Baseball
Baseball Bats
D304 all backs besides General Baking and Brunner's
D381 Fleischman/Ferguson Bakery
E92 Crofts Candy both poses
E92 Crofts Cocoa both poses
E92 Nadja both poses
E102 fielding
E104-2
E105 Mello-Mint
E106 American Caramel both poses
E107
E125 American Caramel both poses
E135 all associated backs except Collins McCarthy and blank
E270 Tin Tops
E271 Darby Chocolates
E286 Ju-Ju Drums
E300 Plows Candy
J + K
M101-4 (all backs except for Sporting News and Blank)
M101-5 (all backs)
M110
M131 Baltimore Newsboy
Orange Border batting and portrait
Reccius Icky Bob
T5
T216 Kotton, Mino and Virginia Extra (all variations)
Texas Tommy type 1 and 2
Voskamps
W555
W600 both
W-Unc 1912
Postcards: Rose Co, American League Pub, Novelty Cutlery, Vignette

Heck if I know:

BF2 Pennants
M101-2
M101-2 w/Cobb


Brian

Great list thanks Brian

[Pat R]

It seem like every year there is a thread about rare Honus Wagner cards compared to his T206 but most if not all of them are rare because all the cards in that particular set have a low population. Between PSA and SGC there are 402,036 graded T206's, 54 of those are Honus Wagner's that's 0.0134 percent and that's not even taking into account the ungraded cards.

[Casey2296]

Great list Brian.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Pat R

It seem like every year there is a thread about rare Honus Wagner cards compared to his T206 but most if not all of them are rare because all the cards in that particular set have a low population. Between PSA and SGC there are 402,036 graded T206's, 54 of those are Honus Wagner's that's 0.0134 percent and that's not even taking into account the ungraded cards.

So true about every year there being a similar post… And good point!!

[sb1]

one more for good measure

[puckpaul]

You need to add the M101-1’s to the list. Maybe 3-15 of each around?

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

Some great tough Wags shown. Here is a link to a thread I started 10 years ago which had plenty of input from collectors about this subject (over multiple years):

https://net54baseball.com/showthread...ghlight=wagner


And for those who get a little squeamish at the thought of your eyes glazing over a longer thread, below is the most updated listing seen within the thread that lists the various perceived levels of availability of Honus cards (for the most part the list consists of what I consider cards, as I don't have a good feel on items outside of normal card range). Feel free to suggest updates...I see some that I might consider shifting.


Definitely more Common:

1913 Barker Game
1909/11 Colgans E254
1915 Cracker Jack
1909/11 E90-1 batting and throwing
1910 E91-C
1909 E92 Dockman batting and fielding
1910 E93
1909 E95
1910 E98
1906 Fan Craze NL
1910/11 M116 blue
1910/11 M116 pastel
1913 National Game
1914 Polo Grounds Game


Around the same as the T206 Wagner:

1914 Cracker Jack
D322 Tip-top
E90-2
E94
E102 batting
M101-4 Sporting News and blank backs


Probably less the the T206 Wagner:

D304 General Baking and Brunner's backs
E101 batting and fielding poses
E103
E135 Collins McCarthy and blank backs


Definitely less than the T206:

All Star Baseball
Baseball Bats
D304 all backs besides General Baking and Brunner's
D381 Fleischman/Ferguson Bakery
E92 Crofts Candy both poses
E92 Crofts Cocoa both poses
E92 Nadja both poses
E102 fielding
E104-2
E105 Mello-Mint
E106 American Caramel both poses
E107
E125 American Caramel both poses
E135 all associated backs except Collins McCarthy and blank
E270 Tin Tops
E271 Darby Chocolates
E286 Ju-Ju Drums
E300 Plows Candy
J + K
M101-4 (all backs except for Sporting News and Blank)
M101-5 (all backs)
M110
M131 Baltimore Newsboy
Orange Border batting and portrait
Reccius Icky Bob
T5
T216 Kotton, Mino and Virginia Extra (all variations)
Texas Tommy type 1 and 2
Voskamps
W555
W600 both
W-Unc 1912
Postcards: Rose Co, American League Pub, Novelty Cutlery, Vignette

Heck if I know:

BF2 Pennants
M101-2
M101-2 w/Cobb


Brian

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

Some great tough Wags shown. Here is a link to a thread I started 10 years ago which had plenty of input from collectors about this subject (over multiple years):

https://net54baseball.com/showthread...ghlight=wagner


And for those who get a little squeamish at the thought of your eyes glazing over a longer thread, below is the most updated listing seen within the thread that lists the various perceived levels of availability of Honus cards (for the most part the list consists of what I consider cards, as I don't have a good feel on items outside of normal card range). Feel free to suggest updates...I see some that I might consider shifting.


Definitely more Common:

1913 Barker Game
1909/11 Colgans E254
1915 Cracker Jack
1909/11 E90-1 batting and throwing
1910 E91-C
1909 E92 Dockman batting and fielding
1910 E93
1909 E95
1910 E98
1906 Fan Craze NL
1910/11 M116 blue
1910/11 M116 pastel
1913 National Game
1914 Polo Grounds Game


Around the same as the T206 Wagner:

1914 Cracker Jack
D322 Tip-top
E90-2
E94
E102 batting
M101-4 Sporting News and blank backs


Probably less the the T206 Wagner:

D304 General Baking and Brunner's backs
E101 batting and fielding poses
E103
E135 Collins McCarthy and blank backs


Definitely less than the T206:

All Star Baseball
Baseball Bats
D304 all backs besides General Baking and Brunner's
D381 Fleischman/Ferguson Bakery
E92 Crofts Candy both poses
E92 Crofts Cocoa both poses
E92 Nadja both poses
E102 fielding
E104-2
E105 Mello-Mint
E106 American Caramel both poses
E107
E125 American Caramel both poses
E135 all associated backs except Collins McCarthy and blank
E270 Tin Tops
E271 Darby Chocolates
E286 Ju-Ju Drums
E300 Plows Candy
J + K
M101-4 (all backs except for Sporting News and Blank)
M101-5 (all backs)
M110
M131 Baltimore Newsboy
Orange Border batting and portrait
Reccius Icky Bob
T5
T216 Kotton, Mino and Virginia Extra (all variations)
Texas Tommy type 1 and 2
Voskamps
W555
W600 both
W-Unc 1912
Postcards: Rose Co, American League Pub, Novelty Cutlery, Vignette

Heck if I know:

BF2 Pennants
M101-2
M101-2 w/Cobb


Brian

That's the one I was thinking of. Thank you.

[George]

The two Orange Border Wagners...........Batting and Portrait.

[CobbSpikedMe]

Originally Posted by pcoz

Here are a couple, E-UNC is 1 of 2 known, and Voskamps have around a half dozen.

Pete, That E-Unc is my favorite Wagner card out there. Love that one. I hope to one day be able to own one. Thanks for sharing it.



.

[brianp-beme]

The bigger size supplement type issues are definitely not one of my strong points when it comes to knowledge. I will add the M101-1 and National Copper Plate to the 'Definitely Less Than T206' column...and should I add the M101-2 as well? It was/is in my 'Heck if I Know' category.

Brian



Definitely more Common:

1913 Barker Game
1909/11 Colgans E254
1915 Cracker Jack
1909/11 E90-1 batting and throwing
1910 E91-C
1909 E92 Dockman batting and fielding
1910 E93
1909 E95
1910 E98
1906 Fan Craze NL
1910/11 M116 blue
1910/11 M116 pastel
1913 National Game
1914 Polo Grounds Game


Around the same as the T206 Wagner:

1914 Cracker Jack
D322 Tip-top
E90-2
E94
E102 batting
M101-4 Sporting News and blank backs


Probably less the the T206 Wagner:

D304 General Baking and Brunner's backs
E101 batting and fielding poses
E103
E135 Collins McCarthy and blank backs
M101-2
M101-2 w/Cobb


Definitely less than the T206:

All Star Baseball
Baseball Bats
D304 all backs besides General Baking and Brunner's
D381 Fleischman/Ferguson Bakery
E92 Crofts Candy both poses
E92 Crofts Cocoa both poses
E92 Nadja both poses
E102 fielding
E104-2
E105 Mello-Mint
E106 American Caramel both poses
E107
E125 American Caramel both poses
E135 all associated backs except Collins McCarthy and blank
E270 Tin Tops
E271 Darby Chocolates
E286 Ju-Ju Drums
E300 Plows Candy
J + K
M101-1
M101-4 (all backs except for Sporting News and Blank)
M101-5 (all backs)
M110
M131 Baltimore Newsboy
National Copper Plate
Orange Border batting and portrait
Reccius Icky Bob
T5
T216 Kotton, Mino and Virginia Extra (all variations)
Texas Tommy type 1 and 2
Voskamps
W555
W600 both
W-Unc 1912
Postcards: Rose Co, American League Pub, Novelty Cutlery, Vignette

Heck if I know:

BF2 Pennants


Brian

[gabrinus]

Here is an old D303 General Baking I used to have...Jerry

[yanksfan09]

another oddball piece with Wagner:

Ferguson Bakery Prize Felt Pillow Top redemption:

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by yanksfan09

another oddball piece with Wagner:

Ferguson Bakery Prize Felt Pillow Top redemption:

that's spectacular!

[yanksfan09]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

that's spectacular!

Thanks Pete!

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by yanksfan09

Thanks Pete!

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