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I'm not a Rose fan, but apropos of your signature, maybe you "have not attempted to understand" gambling addiction.
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It's not the gambling addict that deserves disdain and contempt-- it is the liar. Even an addict who needs to lie to maintain his addiction could deserve some sympathy or understanding, I would suppose, but I assume a reformed or recovering addict would show remorse/contrition and acknowledgment of his past problems, not: a) deny and lie about betting on baseball at all for 11 years, and b) deny for 26 years and counting that he bet on baseball while a player.
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But remember, he only bet on baseball as a manager and not a player. Right. Also he only bet on the Reds. Right. Who in their right mind would believe anything this lyer says.
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This guy is a bum. A man who feels remorse admits what he did without prompting. A coward continues to deny, deny, deny, and even after being caught red handed, will continue to dismiss the seriousness of what they've done.
Pete Rose should not ever be elected to the HOF and he should be shunned by baseball for eternity. Last edited by packs; 06-23-2015 at 12:17 PM. |
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I (respectfully) disagree
Yeah, he bet on baseball. Yeah, he lied about it. We all know it.
But watching him play baseball was one of the greatest times in my life. I have seen a lot of people play, but I have never seen anyone, ANYONE, play like Pete. We have juicers in baseball. We have racists, and domestic abusers, and coke fiends. Boozers and skirt chasers. Baseball is not squeaky clean. It never has been, and I doubt it ever will be. But that is what makes it unique, it is a history and a chronicle and a reflection of us. If baseball is dirty, it is only because we, the fans, made it that way. I think it is unfair to keep Pete out of the Hall. I am not saying we should canonize the guy, and rename him St. Peter. He should NOT be allowed to manage any more teams. I personally forgive Pete, and think that before it is too late, we should finally let him come home. But not for Pete. For me. I don't want to end my days thinking that I was too selfish to forgive someone who made stupid mistakes. I know I have made mine. Ok, well, my mistakes didn't exactly involve ten grand on the Reds when I am the lead off hitter. In fact, now that I think about it, my life mistakes don't seem too bad, compared to that. Well, I don't know about all of you, but I suddenly feel much better about my life. Thanks Pete! |
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“Scumbag“
“pile of crap“ “liar“ “bum“ “coward“ Yup, he's all that and a whole lot more. I agree with you guys. However, I do think he should be in the Hall of Fame. It's the HOF, not the Hall of Integrity. +1 |
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You obviously misread my signature remarks. rose is operating in the SAME culture & I DO understand it, I just don't condone it...or forgive it!
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