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Old 03-12-2011, 06:41 AM
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Default 1949 Leaf Ruth variation??? or slabbed reprints????

Im no expert on the 1949 Leaf cards, but I think this is a reprint in this SGC slab. at least Ive though these were reprints for the last few years...

or.... there are 2 variations of this card and a good number of the reprints are based on this one?????????????????????????????????

For years I tell people to look for the added red line at border where Ruth's shoulders meet the border.... this is one of the few different types of Leaf reprints and the easiest to spot for any newbie.


http://cgi.ebay.com/120696789684 (look for red line that divides Ruth's shoulders from border)

edited to say I found a single PSA slab (google images) with this same type of card, so now I question if its not a variation now??? Not that PSA doesnt screw up at time... haha

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Old 03-12-2011, 07:03 AM
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Please tell me Im all wrong on this...
....so I can edit the title to say "New Variation Discovered" or something like that

But then I'll look like a fool for pointing this out a very easy way to spot fakes...
Not the first time, if so
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Old 03-12-2011, 07:10 AM
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Here is the PSA slab with the same type of card...

I see it is an eBay auction that ended for big $$
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...253D&viewitem=


then you have this auction for the same exact card/slab (buyer flipping card above?)
http://cgi.ebay.com/PSA-8-BABE-RUTH-...86359567326775

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Most others listed on eBay do not have the lines, however there is another PSA 8 listed for 4700 that has it.
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Old 03-12-2011, 07:20 AM
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Im digging too for scans ... that same PSA-8 sold for $4000+ March 1st too
(I now have links to both auctions above)

Levi @ 707 has a PSA-3 with the same lines,
http://cgi.ebay.com/1948-Leaf-3-Babe...item56397c1af3

so now its 2 PSA and 1 SGC slabs that have this type of card.
Im going to change the title as to not rip SGC if this is in fact a true variation

Maybe I learned something new today

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Old 03-12-2011, 07:31 AM
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Default looks good from scan

I would rather make a judgement with card in hand. Ruth is far and away the easiest card from the set to locate so he could easily be a double or triple print. which could lead to multiple printing differences. This set has so many different little anomalies I would never want to make an absolute statement off of a scan.
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Old 03-12-2011, 08:58 AM
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Default For what it's worth...

I went thru my set and checked the cards with similar poses like the Ruth card. Philley, Stevens, Schmitz, Grove, Brecheen and Mitchell all had "broad shoulders". No background color is visible between the shoulders and the border. These cards all happen to be "SP's". The only card with color showing(narrow shoulders) was Jackie Robinson. Robinson is a regular print like the Ruth.

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Old 03-12-2011, 09:24 AM
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Default Frank......re..1949 LEAF Ruth

I've seen that printing anomaly on several 1949 LEAF BB cards. Not often with the Ruth card,
but it's there and it's an original authentic LEAF card.

Note this same effect on my Johnny Hopp card. Also, it is a color printing error like the Ruth
you are questioning. Both cards are not the usual RED, but a "violet" color.

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I hope I have allayed your concern regarding the Ruth card on ebay.

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Old 03-12-2011, 12:48 PM
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Thanks all

Thanks Ted for showing that Hopp card.

Oh well I got to go and edit a post I made a few weeks back on another board on how to tell a fake Leaf Ruth from an authentic one. I mentioned the red lines as a way to tell 1 of the reprints, but its now not 100%.

BTW if you google images you'll see many of the true reprints (fakes) of the Ruth is a copy of the red line card.
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Default Ruth variation/printing anomoly

Thanks, Frank and Ted, for some valuable info. That's the thing I like about this forum: people are so inquisitive, have so much knowledge, and things that are not so easy to determine get nailed down when we use each other as a sounding board.

Frank, better that you brought it up than not. You're one of the guys whose brain I like to tap into.

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