Opinions on Value/Authenticity

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Great observation!

This is why I don't "do" autographs.

You figured out bats. To me it seems like it would be a lot easier to find an autograph you like, and feel comfortable researching, then purchasing it, than it would be for bats. But I bet you disagree with me.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by Runscott

You figured out bats. To me it seems like it would be a lot easier to find an autograph you like, and feel comfortable researching, then purchasing it, than it would be for bats. But I bet you disagree with me.

I don't really disagree but, years ago, I decided the only autographs I wanted were ones I could get in person. As a primarily SF Giants collector, that's not impossible to do. That is obviously not true for a Ruth collector or a HOF collector or Philly A"s collector or many others. That said, autographs just don't hold much appeal for me.

Now, an autographed BAT? That's another matter!

[jbsports33]

I really do not have a problem with any one feeling the way they do, I have had signatures on many items before and have had similar issues. Sometimes members like Scott are right, but other times you just need to talk to other people then just this board. Many times I have had autos that I thought had no chance and they come back fine. I am just saying that it does not hurt to have them looked at, sometimes JSA, SGC or PSA will work with you - they want the returned business.

My posts had not been directed at Scott either, it was just a general comment I wanted to make that when researching autos - the first place to go is the COA company and see what they say first. Lean on more then one opinion for your research.

I understand I may not have done any real research with each signature - these had just been fast responses on my part and I guess before saying anything it should have been tought out better Happy Collecting

[Lordstan]

Originally Posted by jbsports33

I really do not have a problem with any one feeling the way they do, I have had signatures on many items before and have had similar issues. Sometimes members like Scott are right, but other times you just need to talk to other people then just this board. Many times I have had autos that I thought had no chance and they come back fine. I am just saying that it does not hurt to have them looked at, sometimes JSA, SGC or PSA will work with you - they want the returned business.

My posts had not been directed at Scott either, it was just a general comment I wanted to make that when researching autos - the first place to go is the COA company and see what they say first. Lean on more then one opinion for your research.

Jimmy,
Nothing personal as I don't know you, and you are correct that we are all entitled to our opinion, BUT if I read and understood, your remarks correctly, this is one of the worst responses ever.

So what you're implying is that, because the COA companies want the return business, they will "work with you" and certify things that may or may not be real. If a signature is bad, it doesn't matter what cert you have, it doesn't make the auto good. Who you want to ask to find out the authenticity of an auto is not the COA company, it's the people you trust the most to know the subject matter and to be honest with you. I trust the knowledge and honesty of the people on this board waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than I will ever trust the TPAs. At least I know that the people here have no financial motivation to give a falsely positive or negative opinion.

If my interpretation is correct, I'm sorry to say, that I would have a hard time ever buying an autograph from you. Your implication is that if it's certed, you'll sell it as real, even if you don't think it is.
So not true.

If my understanding of your position is incorrect, then I apologize fully.
Best,
M@rk Vel@rde

[Runscott]

I have to completely agree with Mark's post above. Jimmy doesn't seem to have any understanding of the how the TPAs' businesses work;e.g-their incentive to pass autographs, or the level of expertise on this board and in most cases, our lack of incentive to say 'yes' to a forgery.

He also doesn't seem to have any confidence in his own ability to do a little bit of research, which astounds me. If you want to own a real autograph, it is imperative that you learn how to distinguish real ones from fakes.

Jimmy - you are not alone, so don't be offended, but your comments are flabbergasting, not that I am certain what that word means.

[shelly]

Jimmey, send everything to the tpa's. This is a place that will never make you happy. Right or wrong we will be wrong.