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Old 09-11-2018, 09:42 PM
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OK guys here's what the numbers (graded cards = PSA + SGC) tell us...…….


> > > > > > 79 graded cards / 28 confirmed subjects = 2.8 BL460's per subject (average)


> > > > > > 177 graded cards / 58 confirmed subjects = 3.0 UZIT's per subject (average)



Therefore, BL460 cards are just marginally scarcer than UZIT cards.
I rest my case.


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I am not a math major but I think that comparison of ratios does not make sense, atleast for how i think you are trying to present it.

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Old 09-11-2018, 09:55 PM
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Ted those numbers are incorrect...what I posted above is several months old, so I'm going to refresh the numbers

TOTAL POP:
Broad Leaf 460: 37 PSA + 46 SGC = 83 total
Drum: 135 PSA + 88 SGC = 223 total
Uzit: 143 PSA + 119 SGC = 262 total

TOTAL SUBJECTS:
Broad Leaf 460: 28 confirmed
Drum: 126 confirmed (I think)
Uzit: 58 confirmed

Jay

We are in agreement with the BROAD LEAF 460 numbers. Yours is 83 and mine is 79 (I deducted 4 because I have 1st hand knowledge that 4 subjects were crossed-over,
therefore they appear twice in the Pop Report data).

At least that tells me we are reading from the same source. However, your UZIT numbers are way out of whack !
Where the heck did you get "262" ? ?


Incidentally, 151 - DRUM's have been confirmed.


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Old 09-11-2018, 10:23 PM
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t206resource has 153 Drums confirmed.
http://t206resource.com/Drum%20350%20Checklist.html
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Old 09-11-2018, 10:58 PM
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Pat

Resource claims Chase (blue portrait) and Mathewson (dark cap) are "confirmed" with DRUM....well let's see some scans to verify this is true ? ?

It's their same type of claims that Ames is confirmed with AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 and UZIT. Or, their claims that Chance (batting), Bergen (catching),
Murray (portrait), Overall (blue sky) are "confirmed" with PIEDMONT 460, Factory #42.


Sorry, but these claims are "fake news" !


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Old 09-11-2018, 11:56 PM
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Resource claims Chase (blue portrait) and Mathewson (dark cap) are "confirmed" with DRUM....well let's see some scans to verify this is true ? ?

It's their same type of claims that Ames is confirmed with AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 and UZIT. Or, their claims that Chance (batting), Bergen (catching),
Murray (portrait), Overall (blue sky) are "confirmed" with PIEDMONT 460, Factory #42.


Sorry, but these claims are "fake news" !


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Ted, maybe you should be careful who you accuse of "fake news".

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Old 09-12-2018, 06:57 AM
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These are where my numbers are coming from. Plus, on my spreadsheet (again admittedly data is a few months old) I have 235 cards individually attributed to players.
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Old 09-12-2018, 07:04 AM
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Doing some spreadsheet manipulation...

Of the 28 confirmed BL460s, 19 (67.8%) have a combined population of 1, 2, or 3. Highest pop BL460 is a tie between Rucker pitching and Willis throwing with 6.

Of the 58 confirmed Uzits, 25 (43.1%) have a combined population of 1, 2, or 3. Highest pop Uzit is at tie between Cobb bat off, Jennings both hands, and Merkle throwing with 12.
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Old 09-12-2018, 07:33 AM
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Jay

I checked-out the data for every UZIT subject (58) listed inn both PSA and SGC. My combined total for PSA and SGC resulted in 178 graded cards.

I subtracted the PSA Herzog from this total since he was reported twice.

I don't know where those numbers you have came from ? ?


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Old 09-12-2018, 07:42 AM
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Those are the pop reports sorted by back...and then the total of all the data in the column as added/reported by the grading company. If you're adding up individually perhaps you're missing cards that are unattributed to a specific pose. If I add up all the cards I have attributed to players I get 235. With the 235 I am definitely not double counting.
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Old 09-12-2018, 07:44 AM
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Gonna try a cut and paste so it might get ugly...

Abbaticchio Ed Blue Sleeves 1
Ames Red Hands above Head 0
Ball Neal Cleveland 0
Bell George Follow Thru 1
Berger Heinie 7
Bradley Bill Batting 2
Bridwell Al Cap 0
Burch Al Fielding 3
Camnitz Howie Arm at Side 0
Camnitz Howie Hands Over Head 0
Chase Hal Holding Trophy 6
Cobb Ty Bat off Shoulder 12
Conroy Wid Batting 3
Crandall Doc Cap 2
Crawford Sam Batting 5
Frill John 1
Geyer Rube 3
Herzog Buck Boston 2
Hummell John 1
Jennings Hughie One Hand Shows 2
Jennings Hughie Both Hands Show 12
Jordan Tim Batting 8
Lajoie Nap Batting 3
Lake Joe Ball 1
Lake Joe No Ball 8
Latham Arlie 10
Leach Tommy Fielding 6
Leifield Lefty Batting 3
Manning Rube Pitching 5
Marquard Rube Pitching 5
McGraw John Portrait with Cap 2
McQuillan George Batting 9
Merkle Fred Throwing 12
Mullin George Batting 6
Murray Red Portrait 1
Oldring Rube Batting 2
Overall Orval Hands at Waist 1
Overall Orval Hands Face Level 2
Pelty Barney Vertical 4
Pfeister Jake Throwing 6
Schaefer Germany Washington 5
Schlei Admiral Batting 5
Schlei Admiral Portrait 6
Schulte Wildfire Back View 0
Seymour Cy Portrait 10
Sheckard Jimmy Glove Showing 1
Smith Frank Chicago & Boston 7
Smith Happy 1
Steinfeldt Harry Batting 8
Tinker Joe Bat on Shoulder 1
Tinker Joe Bat off Shoulder 1
Wagner Heinie Bat on Rt Shoulder 8
White Doc Throwing 2
Wilhelm Kaiser Batting 4
Willetts Ed Willets 4
Willis Vic Batting 5
Wiltse Hooks Portrait with Cap 3
Wiltse Hooks Pitching 7
TOTAL: 235
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