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Old 09-10-2018, 09:01 PM
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Default Are UZIT cards as scarce as BROAD LEAF 460 cards ?

I've been collecting T206 rare backs since the early 1980's. I realize this is anecdotal but based on my experience, I consider BL460 cards and UZIT cards
essentially equal in scarcity.
I also realize this is contrary to conventional wisdom. However, the basic difference which makes the BL460 cards somewhat tougher to find breaks down
to a numbers game, and that is...……...

1....BL 460 backs were printed only on 350/460 series subjects. Furthermore, only 35 (of the 63 subjects) in this series were printed with the BL460 back.

2....UZIT backs were printed on 28 subjects in the 350/460 series. And theoretically, on all 46 subjects in the 460-only series (to date, 30 of these 46 sub-
jects have been confirmed with the UZIT back).


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Some of you will disagree with my premise here. And, that's fine with me. I look forward to a meaningful discussion regarding this subject.


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Old 09-10-2018, 09:16 PM
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Hi Ted, you might be on to something...I’ve been saying for years that UZIT are even tougher than people think. I’ve been collecting T206 for 25 years, and have owned more Drums and more BL 460’s than I have Uzits.

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Old 09-10-2018, 09:55 PM
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I have not been collecting nearly as long as either of you, and I certainly don’t have the same experience, but as someone who has been actively acquiring rare backs over the last two years, I feel like I come across Uzits more often than BL 460s (and Drums less than both). So I don’t which is more rare, but I feel it is harder to acquire a Drum than a BL 460, and a BL 460 is harder to acquire than an Uzit. Meanwhile, I think the Uzit back is cooler than both
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Old 09-10-2018, 09:58 PM
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Is it true that Uzits were only produced in New York over a three week period? I read that somewhere (or at least I thought I did) in my hobby travels.
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Old 09-10-2018, 10:03 PM
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From my research BL460 is much more scarce than Uzit, but Uzit and Drum are closer than people will believe.

For what it's worth my research shows 77 graded BL460s, 218 Drum, and 235 Uzits. My data is several months old.

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Old 09-10-2018, 10:20 PM
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That is incredible! According to the PSA Pop Report there are only 111 graded Uzits and 113 graded Drums of all T206 subjects in existance!
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Old 09-10-2018, 10:41 PM
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I think he means “his research shows”, not that he literally has...!

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Old 09-10-2018, 10:52 PM
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oops lol. I’ve been pretty on top of listings the last 15 months. I’ve seen only a couple of each but definitely more Uzit than BL460 or Drum
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Old 09-11-2018, 08:45 PM
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Default Are UZIT cards as scarce as BROAD LEAF 460 cards ?

OK guys here's what the numbers (graded cards = PSA + SGC) tell us...…….


> > > > > > 79 graded cards / 28 confirmed subjects = 2.8 BL460's per subject (average)


> > > > > > 177 graded cards / 58 confirmed subjects = 3.0 UZIT's per subject (average)



Therefore, BL460 cards are just marginally scarcer than UZIT cards.
I rest my case.


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Old 09-11-2018, 09:57 PM
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Ted those numbers are incorrect...what I posted above is several months old, so I'm going to refresh the numbers

TOTAL POP:
Broad Leaf 460: 37 PSA + 46 SGC = 83 total
Drum: 135 PSA + 88 SGC = 223 total
Uzit: 143 PSA + 119 SGC = 262 total

TOTAL SUBJECTS:
Broad Leaf 460: 28 confirmed
Drum: 126 confirmed (I think)
Uzit: 58 confirmed

PER SUBJECT:
Broad Leaf 460: 83/28 = 2.96
Drum 223/126 = 1.77
Uzit 4.52
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