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Old 09-14-2018, 11:36 AM
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Are people selling clean Uzits for only 2k? If so, please send me their info.

If you're talking about commons in the PSA/SGC 2-3 range, for example...I think you're looking at 3k+ actually.

Luke- weigh in.
SMR for Uzits SMR for Drums
PSA 2 2250.......5000
PSA 3 3200.......7000
PSA 4 4200.......8500

I have seen clean Uzits sell for +/- 2k. I collect by the back not the grade. So there are PSA 2 or SGC 3 cards that I don't want, but there might be a 1.5 or even A, if the back is nice, that I want. I can send those that i don't want your way if I see them, but if you want nice backs, I am your competition. Most likely these cards are going to be in a public auction anyways.
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Old 09-14-2018, 11:50 AM
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I think this was a sleeper lot and someone got a really good deal.
No hall of famers but some pretty nice examples mostly in vg
at less than $850 a card.


https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...ce?itemid=3717
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Old 09-14-2018, 12:14 PM
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I think this was a sleeper lot and someone got a really good deal.
No hall of famers but some pretty nice examples mostly in vg
at less than $850 a card.


https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...ce?itemid=3717
YAH...12 years ago!!!! I also believe uzits to be easier than bl460 and drum...but which of those 2 is tougher...i dunno??
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Old 09-14-2018, 12:25 PM
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YAH...12 years ago!!!! I also believe uzits to be easier than bl460 and drum...but which of those 2 is tougher...i dunno??
You're right Pete I misread the date but still a decent price I think
even back then.
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Old 09-14-2018, 02:05 PM
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Great discussion. I think Uzits are available for $2k the same way Drums are available for $5k. If one shows up at that price, whichever one of us who sees it first is going to snap it up. I feel the same about Uzits being under-valued compared to Drums. The last few months probably have been an anomaly with regard to how many Units have shown up for sale. The Hummel was new to the hobby, as were the two that I got from eBay. Could be a little while before we see another Drum or Uzit sell.
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Old 09-14-2018, 02:27 PM
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Rats60- you're correct, we have lots of competition, everyone wants nice examples.

I know who won that REA lot...yeah, he did well. happy for him.

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Old 09-14-2018, 02:50 PM
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I’ll limit my comments to the glorious period of time from the early 1980s to the mid 1990s. During that time my dad and I had the amazing experience of buying several complete or near complete T206 sets and many thousands of other T206 cards in raw lots ranging from a few dozen to several hundred. In all, we’ve probably owned at least 5k - maybe even close to 10k T206s at some point - although never at the same time. It sounds impossible now, but at one point average cards cost $1 and even Cobb was under $50.

During those earlier years, many folks didn’t know much or care much about the backs - especially when you purchased a set or a large lot of cards.

I can say that Dad or I never found a raw Cobb/Cobb, Brown Lenox, BL460 or drum. While this is a small sample, it’s interesting to note the tougher backs that we’ve found as.
1 brown old mill (probably shouldn’t count this as I saw the image before I bought the lot)
2 Red Hindu
3 Uzits (one was on a Cobb batting!!)
And at least 3 of all other back varieties (although Black Lenox, BL350, P42 and Carolina Brights were all probably on “close to 5” end of things).

I’m not suggesting from my small sample that we should re-rank rarity, however, it is interesting that I never came across drum or BL460 - and I very rarely even saw them in the raw collections that we didn’t get a chance to buy (in fact, I NEVER saw a BL460 in a raw collection - except for one time, where the seller explicitly knew it was there and made sure to say as much.

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Old 09-14-2018, 03:25 PM
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Hi Scott- 5,000-10,000 cards is not a small sample IMO. I think that's a large enough number to make a lot of determinations regarding what is scarce and what is not.

I also probably handled somewhere around 10,000 T206, some unsearched from original collections, and some bought at auction which were likely cherrypicked. As I said on a different thread, I once bought an original collection with two Drums, but that was by far an outlier. Virtually all original collections I bought did not have rare backs in them.

But I also remember how inexpensive those backs were in the 80's and 90's. When I had Drums and Uzits I might get $125-150 each for them. I also remember Brown Hindus got a small premium over a common. So if commons were $15 I would sell a BH for $25. It's comical looking back how affordable this stuff once was. But it won't be ever again.
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Default Are UZIT cards as scarce as BROAD LEAF 460 cards ?

I've kept a few of my UZIT's....and, in the past 10 years I have sold these......


Sold for $2900 (2017)
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Sold for $5925 (consigned to REA 2013....this Herzog / UZIT is the only one known)






Cash/trade deal....$1200 + $500 value in trade (2012)
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Sold for $1650 (2008)




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how many broad leaf 460’s have you had/sold over the years Ted?
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