T205 Graham discussion

Piedmont Fact. 25 Blue Signature on front link fixed.

This would make for a variation then. There is a Piedmont Fact 25 for both Blue and Black, and would say the Blue Signature on front is of lesser quantity.

[Wite3]

Andrew...now I see that there are two versions for the piedmont and I would consider this a variation. Thanks for fixing the link.

Joshua

[steve B]

Cool! a T205 thread I can contribute to. (I have maybe 20 of them and haven't studied them much. )

My Graham is P25 black sig.

Some color differences can be from the ink mixing, but black was nearly always done with various forms of carbon as the pigment,(For printing inks ca 1911) and it just doesn't fade and didn't need to be mixed.

Steve B

So here is the million dollar question then. Should it be only the Piedmont Fact 25 Blue Signature on front or should each card be labeled as such with the appropriate signature color and the emphasis being that Pied fact. 25 Blue being the hardest. I would think that Graham Blue Signature on front for only the Piedmont Fact 25 would be a good label. Any thoughts?


Even though the Black signature is far less plentiful on the Graham FB combos the Blue Signature Piedmont Fact 25 will be the the rarer of the 2. There can at anytime be 5 to 1 Black to blue Piedmont 25. I have only seen a few over the past few months and think there will be far less now.

BTW if anyone has any to show it would be nice to possibly see what the ratio we as board members may have. I also believe that the sweet caporal reds have the same blue and black signature variation

[dherm360]

I have a Piedmont 25 with Black Sig

Please if any of you have any others not shown especially the Sweet Caporal backs post them. Or what ever you have for that matter for a better count on blue to black Pied 25

[nebboy]

I know I have a black and a blue version, I 'll have to get back to you on the backs. And yes as soon as I found that there were diffrent version I added each to my collection for a own master set.. John - Nebboy

[T205Guy]

Hi,

I thought I would throw my collection of Grahams into the mix. I have the following cards:

BLUE signatures: American Beauty, Broad Leaf (Olive), Drum, Honest Long Cut, Piedmont (F25), Polar Bear, Sovereign, Sweet Caporal.

BLACK signatures: Cycle and CUBS Variation with Hassan (F649).

Looks like we need a Master checklist...

Ed

[frankbmd]

Sweet Cap - Blue Sig on my only Graham

Ed you need the Pied 25. Black. You have the toughest of them so far being the Pied 25 Blue signature. Nice run there BTW.
Does anyone have a Black Sweet cap back? Does it exist? So far only the Pied 25 has both Black and Blue signatures. Thanks to those that have contributed so far. Hope we see more of these soon.