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Old 10-03-2018, 09:49 PM
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13 Terms or expressions are listed. 3 sports are represented. Without researching (even though I know you will cheat) try to answer the the following three questions for each of the 13 questions. A few have multiple acceptable answers but most do not. One or more answers can be left blank and still be correct.

The first answer for each of the 13 is the decade of origin. 1920 would cover 1920-1929 and so forth.

The second answer for each of the 13 is to name the individual or individuals associated with the origin.

The third answer for each of the 13 is to locate the origin of the term, which can be a school, a city or a team.

8 out of the 13 are prewar in keeping with the guidelines for the forum.

39 correct answers are possible. Scoring will be lenient as some of the answers are debatable. Ample time will be provided for those who wish to take the whole test.

Correct answers to the questions will be posted at the rate of one per day. Preference will be given to correct answers from the board.

#1 - The Baltimore Chop

Answer #1: 1890-99 : McGraw or Keeler : Baltimore


#2 - The Lonesome End

Answer #2: 1950-59 : Carpenter : Army

#3 - The Suicide Squeeze

Answer #3: 1890-99 : Case or Carter : Yale

#4 - Coffin Corner Kicks

Answer #4: 1900-09 : Kerner : Furbusher St

#5 - The 7th Inning Stretch

Answer #5: 1880-89. : Brother Jasper. : Manhattan College

#6 - The Single Wing

Answer #6: 1900-09 : Warner or Thorpe : Carlisle, PA

#7 - Four Corners Offense

Answer #7: 1950-59 : Coach Biasi : West Virginia Tech

#8 - Take Me Out to The Ball Game (written or first used in a ball game)

Answer #8: 1900-09 written : Norworth & Tilzer :

1930-39 first used in ball game : Los Angeles


#9 - The Lambeau Leap

Answer #9: 1990-99 : Leroy Butler : Green Bay, WI (edjs)

#10 - Eephus

Answer #10: 1930-39 : Sewell : Pittsburgh

#11 - First play by play announcer for Monday Night Football

Answer #11: 1970-79 : Keith Jackson : Jets at Cleveland (Sean)

#12 - The Mendoza Line

Answer #12: [color="Blue"] 1970-79 : Paciorek, Bochte, Brett, Berman & Mendoza : Seattle [COLOR]

#13 - The Hail Mary

Answer #13 : 1920-29 : Crowley et al : Notre Dame


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I know the Lambeau Leap, except the person who coined it. It was the 1990s (1993) when LeRoy Butler took a pitch from Reggie White and scored his first touchdown. Who coined the term? Maybe Al Michaels, he announced a bunch of Green Bay games in the 90s. By the way, they just showed this during the game vs. Buffalo this last Sunday. Go Pack Go!
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The first play by play announcer for MNF was Keith Jackson. He teamed with Howard Cosell and Don Meredith for one year in the '70s, then he was replaced by Frank Gifford.
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The Hail Mary originated in the mid-'70s when Roger Staubach threw a desperation pass to Drew Pearson to win a playoff game against the Vikings in Metropolitan Stadium. I can't recall the announcer. Maybe Lindsey Nelson?
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The Mendoza line was named for Mario Mendoza, a shortstop for the Braves. It originated in the early '80s, and was attributed to the Chicago White Sox bullpen in an article written for SI, I believe by Frank Deford.

The Sox relievers used the term to refer to anyone hitting below .220, though now it's used to refer to those hitting below .200.
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The four corners "offense" was invented by Dean Smith, and I think that he coined the term. It was used as a stall tactic at a time when college basketball didn't have a shot clock. It required four players to stand in four corners of a square, while a point guard dribbled in the center of this square created by the other players. It was used with Phil Ford in the late '70s, but may go back to Charlie Scott in the '60s.

It was usually used late in a game to protect a lead, but I remember Smith using it for the entire game against Duke (with Gene Banks, Jim Spanarkle and Mike Giminsky) in 1978.
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The 7th Inning Stretch story, possibly apocryphal, involves President William Howard Taft rising from his seat
to stretch his legs at a game, presumably in Washington and sometime around 1909-1910, and much of the rest of the crowd
promptly following suit in respectful deference to his office. For some reason it soon became a tradition at all games
even if Taft wasn't there.
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The Eephus pitch is generally attributed to Rip Sewell, then with Pittsburgh, who fooled around with it in the 1940s.
We've heard that other guys occasionally lobbed one as far back as the early 1900s, but we remember it best for
being clobbered for a home run by Ted Williams in an All-Star game, although the details escape our faltering memories
and we're not gonna cheat by looking it up.
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I think the Baltimore chop dates to the 1890s, when Wee Willie Keeler popularized it.
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#6 - The Single Wing (SW)

Probably one of the first football offenses, so I'll say 1870's.

LE..LT..LG..C..RG..RT..RE

..............QB

..............HB................SW

..............FB

Princeton used it forever, probably into 1950s.

I "think" The Citadel still uses it.
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I'm going to guess that Coffin Corner Kick originated in the 1970s by Ray Guy.
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Mario Mendoza played for the Pirates and the Mariners, and I always thought it was George Brett who coined the "Mendoza Line", but I double checked his Wikipedia page and he credits his Mariners teammates Bruce Bochte and Tom Paciorek with inventing it. When Brett was chasing .400 in 1980 he mentioned the "Mendoza Line" in an interview and that is how it came into public prominence.

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Was going to say that the Baltimore Chop was coined for Wee Willie Keeler's hitting style where he would chop the ball downward to have it bounce so high that he would beat the throw to first. Originated when he played in Baltimore in the 1890s (like Ed said before me).
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A complete answer in the form of an answer has been added to the first post. The answer was provided by Sean in Post #3.
Okay, Frank.

The Lambeau Leap originated in the 1990s, the people associated with it are Reggie White and LeRoy Butler, and occurred in Green Bay, WI.

How is that?
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Bumping this before it falls to page 3...
and Dr Frank informs us our answers are... not right.
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Baltimore Chop: 1890s, John McGraw, Baltimore Orioles
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Lonesome End: 1940s, Army, Doc Blanchard
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Remaining answers have been posted.

The groundskeeper could be added to #1.

Carpenter played for Army from 1957-59 before serving in Vietnam.

The origin of the suicide squeeze surprised me.

The answer to #4 is urban legend. 1940 is a better date for the term, not associated with anyone specific.

Taft is probably okay for #5, but Brother Jasper beat him by nearly 30 years.

Pop Warner is generally credited with the origin of the single wing.

Dean Smith popularized the 4 corners, but it was used first by WV Tech.

Sewell is correct, but the eephus dates to 1935.

I thought someone would say Gifford instead of Jackson, who was in the booth for the first year only.

The Mendoza line was coined by Seattle teammates, who then teased Brett in a slump. Brett passed it on to Berman and ESPN.

A Hail Mary play dates to the 4 horsemen era of Notre Dame football. The first was a 19 yard game winning pass. Catholic schools used Hail Marys in the huddle thereafter, when they needed a game winning score. Staubach’s pass in 1975 popularized the term and of course Flutie added to the Hail Mary lore several years later.

There may be other answers that are equally valid, but I made an effort to establish the true origin.

I could not prove the existence of Furbusher State, but the tale related to Kerner and his allergy to football leather is worth looking up.

http://blindmumbling.blogspot.com/20...rner-kick.html
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Bill Carpenter was the lonely end. I saw him play in the late 50's against West Virginia at West Point. He may have been dubbed that by quarterback and team mate Pete Dawkins, who I believe won the Heisman in '58 or '59.
Bill did serve in Vietnam and become noteworthy by calling in fire his own position when about to be overrun by superior NVA forces. I think he was killed and awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor.
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