Do these items exist? Lets see visual confirmation!

[Vintagecatcher]

I'm sure we all have items on our want lists that we may have never seen an example of firsthand. So lets post a few of these items and see if anyone can provide a scan to satisfy our curiosity!

I'll start the thread with my desire to see a PE2 Diamond Gun pin of Red Dooin.

I have the only other catchers in the set, Bill Carrigan and Ira Thomas, already.

He is on the Diamond Gum checklist, however, I don't recall ever seeing one.

Patrick

[bcornell]

Patrick, I've got one: a D381 Jennings. This card has been catalogued going back to the Sports Collectors Bible days, but I've never seen one and I don't know of any collector who has, either.

My suspicion is that the card does exist. It was likely Larry Fritsch who provided the info on this set and he was known to have a big group of them. Also, I think the Jennings card was issued only by Ferguson Bakery and not by Fleischmann Bakery, so like all Fergusons, it's rare. The Johnson card is another Ferguson-only card (along with Nehf and Tragesser) and it was never catalogued until it appeared on this site in a thread about 15 years ago.

If someone has an image, please share it!

[Baseball Rarities]

I would love to see a image of a PC760 Rose Co. postcard of Tris Speaker.

Like Bill's example, the Speaker has been on checklists since the days of The Sports Collector's Bible.

Personally, I doubt that it exists since Speaker was not very well known when the set was initially issued in 1908. Plus, each of the 16 teams have exactly 12 cards in the "main" set from 1908 and all 12 subjects are known for the Boston AL team, BUT the Rose Co. did add a few players subsequently (Abstein, Isbell, Knight, McConnell, Oakes, Sebring, Spade, etc.), to their initial set of 192, so there is a chance that Speaker was issued. If he does exist, he would certainly be part of the "no team" series that was issued in 1909.

[Vintagecatcher]

Hopefully Jerry S., the expert regarding the PC760 Rose Co. set, will chime in regarding whether this postcard exists.

Patrick

[ValKehl]

Can anyone confirm the existence of of a T216 Kotton Cigarettes card with this Jennings pose and this back?

[MartyFromCANADA]

J=K Candy - George Gibson
Anyone??

[JohnP0621]

Would love to see a T213 Coupon of Chief Meyers Fielding with a Brooklyn Team
Variation and a Hooks Wiltse pitching with a Jersey City team variation.

John P

[Vintagecatcher]

Here you go John. Have one in my collection.

Patrick

[buymycards]

Hi John,
I have one. As far as I can find out, he never played for Jersey City. His tough T213-2's are the 2 Brooklyn versions. He played for the Brooklyn Tip-Tops in 1915.

Rick

[packs]

Would love to see an example of the Grover Alexander W590 with him listed as being with House of David.

[JohnP0621]

Originally Posted by Vintagecatcher

Here you go John. Have one in my collection.

Patrick

Thanks for showing .
I have a back run of This pose . Only missing this card and the victory tobacco
Been looking for this variation for some time.

Regards
John P

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by packs

Would love to see an example of the Grover Alexander W590 with him listed as being with House of David.

An image of one is shown in the first post of this thread:

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=185679

Brian

[T206Collector]

Signed T206s of Stanage, Moriarty, Schmidt, Bresnahan (Portrait), Pattee, or Shaw

I have only been able to view 57 different signed T206 poses that are credible or authenticated by PSA, JSA, or BAS.

Years ago, I heard claims about Stanage, Moriarty, and Schmidt signed poses from a Net54 collector, but he refuses to or is unable to send me scans, so it is hard to credit the representation.

Renowned autograph dealer Phil Marks says that a bunch of signed T206 Bresnahans exist in private collections, but I have only seen the one batting pose that has been authenticated by PSA. I have never seen another, or the portrait pose.

Shaw and Pattee lived into the 1970s -- in fact Shaw was the 3rd-to-last T206er to pass away, survived only by Livingston and Marquard -- and should thus be reasonably possible. His signature is just 6 letters long, so it is surprising to me that the forgers were not able to get a fake one through the experts. We know that the forgers did purchase an unsigned Shaw, so maybe they tried but were unsuccessful. Naturally, if any of these show up for the first time without provenance tomorrow, they should be viewed as highly suspicious.

Still, it is exciting to imagine what could be out there lurking in private collections. In the only email I have ever gotten from Keith Olberman he told me that he had about 25. But, he never responded to follow up emails about which ones he had. If only all collectors of signed T206 cards would post scans of their treasures, the world would be a better place!

[packs]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

An image of one is shown in the first post of this thread:

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=185679

Brian

This is the one example I'm aware of. Does anyone have another?

[Webster]

1913 Voskamp’s Mensor.

It is listed on the checklist on back of all cards. To the best of my knowledge, there is no existing image of the card.

[x2drich2000]

A few E92 combinations I would like to know about. Would happily buy any of these if you have them

Nadja Zimmerman
Nadja Donovan
Nadja Doyle (with Bat)
Cocoa Shean
Black Candy Davis

[RCMcKenzie]

My first completed pose run for n172 was of Geo "Germany" Smith. Now I am working on Smith's n173 format run. I have 425-2 and 425-5. Does anyone have or know about 1, 3, and 4?

[benjulmag]

The 1912 Boston Garter cards have a checklist on the backs. Among the players listed is Walter Johnson. I have never seen an image of this card. Does anybody have one?

[brass_rat]

Originally Posted by Webster

1913 Voskamp’s Mensor.

It is listed on the checklist on back of all cards. To the best of my knowledge, there is no existing image of the card.

+1

[brass_rat]

I've got a lot of "confirmation wants":

• D303 Mothers' Bread Rube Bressler and Nap Lajoie
  https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=250083
  
  
• D303 General Baking Eddie Plank "no position"
  
  
• T216 Virginia Extra Christy Mathewson (none are known to exist, but it's a theoretically possible card)
  
  
• T215-1: Ames, Bender (pitching, no trees), Bridwell, Collins, Doolan (batting), Doyle (batting), Hummel, Konetchy, Krause, Lajoie, Leach, Magee, Marquard, Mathewson (dark cap), McGraw (glove at hip), Merkle, Murphy, Oakes, Pelty, Schaefer, Smith (Cincinnati), Smith (Montreal), Speaker, Tinker (bat off shoulder), Heinie Wagner, Warhop, White, Young
  
  
• T215-2: Bender (pitching, no trees), Bresnahan (Chicago Nat'l), Camnitz, Cree, Davis, Doolan (batting), Dubuc, Griffith, Hofman, Konetchy, Lake, Leach, Lord, Mathewson (dark cap), McGraw (glove at hip), Merkle, Miller, Paskert, Schaefer (Washington), Schaefer (Chicago Nat.), Smith (Cincinnati), Smith (Montreal), Heinie Wagner

[oldjudge]

Theoretically, Harry Wright should be in the Gypsy Queen set, but I have never seen an image of the card. Does anyone have one? I would also be interested in seeing images of Bishop-Pittsburgh, Collins-NY, Bassett-Indianapolis, Daly and Sullivan-Chicago, Weidman-Detroit, and Henderson-Brooklyn. Thanks-Jay (oldjudge@gmail.com).

[paul]

Jay, how do you determine which players and managers theoretically should have a Gypsy Queen? Thanks.

Paul

[jayshum]

I would like to know if the 1933 Rittenhouse set has the Paul Waner and Lloyd Warner cards. I have only ever seen the Paul Warner and Lloyd Waner versions.

[Baseball Rarities]

Originally Posted by benjulmag

The 1912 Boston Garter cards have a checklist on the backs. Among the players listed is Walter Johnson. I have never seen an image of this card. Does anybody have one?

Corey - I have never seen a Walter Johnson. I do not think that I have seen Tris Speaker either - he is also on the checklist.

[RCMcKenzie]

Steve, here's T215-2 Lake. Lipset has it catalogued. Rough condition, but you can still see a blue remnant of "Detroit".

[oldjudge]

Originally Posted by paul

Jay, how do you determine which players and managers theoretically should have a Gypsy Queen? Thanks.

Paul

Hi Paul—mostly “0” numbered players, plus some short number players, plus a few more. Maybe someday I’ll do a Gypsy Queen book.

[brass_rat]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

Steve, here's T215-2 Lake. Lipset has it catalogued. Rough condition, but you can still see a blue remnant of "Detroit".

Thanks, Rob!

[rjackson44]

Wagner ,cobb ,w.johnson complete boxes ,,,never happen.

[BeanTown]

Id like to see a 1910 Punch Ty Cobb Cuban card with the complete back

[robertsmithnocure]

Originally Posted by rjackson44

Wagner ,cobb ,w.johnson complete boxes ,,,never happen.

Is there even a checklist of known of complete Darby Chocolates boxes? Are Wagner, Cobb and Johnson supposed to exist?

[CobbSpikedMe]

Originally Posted by buymycards

Hi John,
I have one. As far as I can find out, he never played for Jersey City. His tough T213-2's are the 2 Brooklyn versions. He played for the Brooklyn Tip-Tops in 1915.

Rick

Hi John and Rick,

I also have a copy of the Wiltse pitching on Jersey City as part of my Jersey City collection. Just to point out that they are out there if you look for them.


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[sreader3]

Not prewar but I would love to see any 1960 Armour Meats Denver Bears other than Walz and Donnelly. I bought Walz over six years ago thinking I could finish the set in a few years but haven't seen any offered since.

[SMPEP]

I'll play.

Let's see a 1923 W572 Walt Barbare.

Since I've been asking for about 10 years - I'm pretty sure it won't appear.

Cheers,
Patrick

[RCMcKenzie]

According to Baseball-Reference, Hooks Wiltse pitched 11 games for the Jersey City Skeeters in 1915. He went 2-2 with a 2.54 era in 46 innings.

[hcv123]

Perhaps someone on the prewar side might know of a 1960 Complete Bazooka box with Clemente or Mantle or Mays?? Would love to see a scan! Newer to prewar collecting and still learning tons - so no good elusive ones to ask for there........yet. Enjoying everyone's requests.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by SMPEP

I'll play.

Let's see a 1923 W572 Walt Barbare.

Since I've been asking for about 10 years - I'm pretty sure it won't appear.

Cheers,
Patrick

That has been being searched for for years. Lets see a Joe Jackson T206.

[Cliff Bowman]

Since a couple of others brought up post war I will mention my Does It Exist?, 1972 Venezuelan Stickers #87 Jose Cardenal Cubs, and for that matter, #135 Gonzalo Marquez A's.

[phlflyer1]

Hi Steve,

Here is the T215-1 Magee. Don't remember when I acquired it but I got him to go along with my T215-2 type.

[sbfinley]

1. I’ve never seen a Hage’s Dairy Tommy Bridges in 10 years of searching.

2. Is it true 1941 Play Ball paper versions exist outside of the first two sheets and that they just weren’t distributed?

[paul]

I'd like to see a D350-1 Standard Biscuit of Zach Wheat. This is the card that supposedly replaced the super rare Bobby Wallace. But I've never seen the "common" Wheat. Wheat is easy to find in the blank back M101-5 set and with other backs, but I can't find him with the Standard Biscuit back. I am starting to think that Wallace made it all the way through the Standard Biscuit print run. It was just a very small print run.

[brass_rat]

Originally Posted by phlflyer1

Hi Steve,

Here is the T215-1 Magee. Don't remember when I acquired it but I got him to go along with my T215-2 type.

That's awesome, thank you for sharing, Scott!

[ledsters]

[QUOTE=sbfinley;1970425]1. I’ve never seen a Hage’s Dairy Tommy Bridges in 10 years of searching.

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[buymycards]

Originally Posted by JohnP0621

Would love to see a T213 Coupon of Chief Meyers Fielding with a Brooklyn Team
Variation and a Hooks Wiltse pitching with a Jersey City team variation.

John P

Hi John,

I assume you are talking about Type 2 T213's.
Can't help you with the Meyers.

Rick

[buymycards]

LOL, I didn't notice that this thread was 18 months old.

[ledsters]

I just happen across that Hage’s Bridges and remembered that someone was looking for proof it existed.

[t213]

Steve,
I have the T215-2 Heinie Wagner.
Andy

[Mozzie22]

I'd like to see a 1914 E224 Texas Tommy type 1 Harry Wolter...then I can officially be tortured.

[BobC]

Missed this thread when it first started, but I have a card I've never seen as well, a 1928 F-50 Yuengling's card of Earl Smith. Anybody have or seen one?

[Aaron Seefeldt]

Originally Posted by robertsmithnocure

Is there even a checklist of known of complete Darby Chocolates boxes? Are Wagner, Cobb and Johnson supposed to exist?

Around 20 years ago I had a Darby Chocolate box with Wagner on one side and Snodgrass on the other. I sold it to a well known collector in New York ( I also sold a Walter Johnson but not a box, just the card and a Cobb that was a single card but completely restored).

A different Cobb pose was sold in REA and it was a complete box, see picture.

[scooter729]

Originally Posted by BobC

Missed this thread when it first started, but I have a card I've never seen as well, a 1928 F-50 Yuengling's card of Earl Smith. Anybody have or seen one?

I'm actually lucky enough to have a pair of them....