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Old 10-22-2007, 06:41 PM
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Posted By: Dennis W.

I was outbid. I was wondering what the board thought value wise.

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Old 10-22-2007, 06:49 PM
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Posted By: chris bland

I have no idea of its value, but that is an awesome piece.

Also, if the winner is who I think it is, you were not going to win that auction no matter what you bid - big time PCL collector I believe...

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Old 10-22-2007, 06:52 PM
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Posted By: Steve Murray

is correct. If an item is won by veangregg you may be assured that it is important and worth every penny, if not more.

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Old 10-22-2007, 06:55 PM
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Posted By: Tom Boblitt

William "DUMMY" Hoy...........
Letter to his brother.......

I'd say well worth the $500++

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Old 10-22-2007, 07:03 PM
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

Dennis, you did well finding the letter, I think.

And I agree with everyone's posts! A Dummy Hoy letter, monumental. A great PCL piece, too. And outbidding veangregg is difficult. He seems to have a great eye for stuff, and financial wherewithal to get serious about items. I'm confident that he's a knowledgeable collector who seriously pursues items he wants. I'd like to buy him supper one evening just to listen to the tales he could tell.

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Old 10-22-2007, 07:04 PM
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Posted By: Dennis W.

OK, I know who you're talking about concerning the high bidder. I knew it was Dummy Hoy and I was the under bidder with what I thought was a strong bid. I'm always short on cash every time something comes up on ebay that I really want. Of course in this case it probably didn't matter since I was out-gunned anyway.

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Old 10-22-2007, 07:43 PM
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Posted By: davidcycleback

I think the winning price was low. 1893 writing date, Dummy Hoy, SF baseball, original envelope, morphine for some color. Hard to get much better.

Star players signatures signed in 1800s in any form are rare. I've had a few 19th century stars autographs, but they were all signed in the 1900s, long after they had retired.

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Old 10-22-2007, 08:30 PM
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Posted By: Bill Todd

Yeah, I got outsniped at the last second as well (would have been third). My heart was beating kind of fast when I saw that it was still at $65 this evening, and no baseball folks had bid on it yet (only cover guys).

Hoy played in a barnstorming tour with the Boston Beaneaters that winter in California. I hope Veangregg will share some of the content with us once he has the letter in hand.

The seller gets between $10 and $20 for most of his covers. He obviously didn't know what he had here, or he would have said more about the baseball part and would have shown the signature; he must be stunned at the ending price.

Bill

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Old 10-22-2007, 11:33 PM
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Awesome piece, thanks for sharing the link.

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Old 10-22-2007, 11:54 PM
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Posted By: Brett

That was in my watch list but the seller never responded to my e-mails, so no bid for me :S

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Old 10-22-2007, 11:58 PM
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Posted By: davidcycle

The winner is a big early Seattle baseball collector in, of all places, Seattle. Presumably he collects other vintage PCL stuff also. A couple years back he helped design a big Seattle baseball history display at Safeco Field and there was a recent article about him and his collecting ways in one of the Seattle papers.

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Old 10-23-2007, 12:10 AM
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Posted By: Dan Bretta

I know he mainly focuses on PCL stuff, but believe me he will bid on nearly all minor league items. I was lucky enough to outbid him a few days ago on a 1915 Western league schedule. I believe it is the first time I have ever beaten him out of anything on ebay.

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Posted By: anthony

how in the heck do you do a search for that on ebay?

nice find...

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Old 10-23-2007, 04:27 AM
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>>how in the heck do you do a search for that on ebay?<<

Anthony,

I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you. (Or at least cancel your eBay account.)

Bill

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Old 10-23-2007, 08:46 AM
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Posted By: Dennis W.

Thanks Anthony and you other guys for complimenting me on my "find". I spend wayyyy too much time on ebay. It pays off on occasion. In this case, because of the way the item was listed, I thought I had a good shot. Unfortunately, I'm not the only one that spends a lot of time on ebay.

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Posted By: Matt

Anthony - just browse to that category:
http://collectibles.listings.ebay.com/Ephemera_1900-20_W0QQfclZ3QQfromZR11QQsacatZ41188QQsocmdZListing ItemList
and do a search for baseball including the item description. There are just a few items to look through, but almost always interesting.

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Posted By: davidcycle

Brief Seattle Business Journal article about the winner:

http://seattle.bizjournals.com/seattle/stories/2007/03/05/story17.html

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Old 10-23-2007, 12:08 PM
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Isn't he a member of this forum ?

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Old 10-23-2007, 12:26 PM
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Just curious to know if the end of the Letter is "signed" ?

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