NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-09-2011, 11:28 AM
albrshbr albrshbr is offline
Bruce C.
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 203
Default T205 Color Error?

I was wondering what others thought of the T205 Walsh color error in the B&L Auction. [URL="http://http://www.b-lauctions.com/site/bid/bidplace.asp?itemid=7574"]

I noticed it shortly after the auction listed, but didn't think much of it. The last 2 days I've been looking at it a bit closer. I've got a similar T205, and I'm thinking this is more likely a stain. The other colors on the Walsh are duller than normal. Also, as can be seen a little better on the back of my Kirb White, the pink color distribution isn't uniform (splotching along the top). Obviously, SGC thought it was a stain, thus the the grade it received. I do however find it interesting that both cards are shortprints and both have Hassan Fact 30 backs.

Your thoughts?


1911_T205_White_SGC30_60.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-09-2011, 12:04 PM
Leon's Avatar
Leon Leon is online now
Leon
peasant/forum owner
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: near Dallas
Posts: 34,300
Default not in hand

Scott has the Walsh that was in our auction but in speaking with him, before the auction ended, I don't think he feels it's a stain. Here is the Walsh card for comparison...
Attached Images
File Type: jpg bl9t205walsh.jpg (57.2 KB, 185 views)
__________________
Leon Luckey
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-09-2011, 10:38 PM
Wite3's Avatar
Wite3 Wite3 is offline
Joshua
J0shua Le.vine
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,228
Default

I remember looking at that Walsh at the Hollywood Park show several years ago. I was offered it but declined and it was bought by another board member shortly thereafter. The Walsh, in my opinion, is not stained. It seems to have either an extra color pass with pink. It is a strange print error.

The White might also have been passed like that either during the color process or a later stain, I can tell you the Walsh pink is very even and does not go through to the back.

Joshua
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-10-2011, 06:25 AM
sb1 sb1 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 3,016
Default

Having examined the Walsh as best one can without removing it from the slab, it is very easy to declare it a full print pass and not a stain. Everywhere there should be white there is pink and exactly where it should be when compared to a normal card. If it were stained or even colored in it would be quite easy to see even with the naked eye.

I did see the pink tinges on the back as well. I believe this color pass was probably made in error as Joshua states, although it does appear it was not caught and the cards saw normal distribution. The pink on the back could be just a bit of transfer from overinked sheets?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-10-2011, 08:13 AM
steve B steve B is offline
Steve Birmingham
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: eastern Mass.
Posts: 8,097
Default

A full solid color pass is usually from having no water on the plate when it gets inked. Pretty striking when it's a light early color like pink, and just really odd when it's a darker color like black.

There are lots of reasons for a dry plate, more on a modern sheet fed press a few less on an old press that used a stone. I'm pretty sure the T205/6s were printed from stones.

Steve B
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
FS: T201 Mecca, T205 Gold, T206 White, OM T210-3 npa589 Tobacco (T) cards, except T206 B/S/T 14 10-21-2011 07:01 PM
T205 Lot (12) vintagecpa Tobacco (T) cards, except T206 B/S/T 3 10-29-2010 12:09 AM
E102 Bender, T205 Cobb, Matty, M116, etc for sale/trade caramelcard Pre-WWII cards (E, D, M, W, etc..) B/S/T 1 10-16-2009 02:27 PM
FS/FT: T205 cards Archive Tobacco (T) cards, except T206 B/S/T 5 11-22-2007 03:19 PM
T205 and T206 Cards Available Archive Tobacco (T) cards, except T206 B/S/T 0 04-06-2007 02:15 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:51 PM.


ebay GSB