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Old 02-10-2014, 02:04 PM
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Default Previously unseen pennant

As a Giants collector with over 200 (mostly vintage) pennants, it's rare I see one I've never seen before. Pictured is one such pennant. It's rough, yes, but I had to jump on it. Has anyone seen this same style for another team? Would you think a star player (e.g. Mays) would have gone in the cutout or was it perhaps for a picture of little Johnny or Sally??

the opening is 4.25" x 6"
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I seem to remember a Yankee pennant when I was a kid with a team picture inserted in a similar spot though the opening was horizontal rather than vertical. Maybe in the 1960's sometime but I could be totally wrong.
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I seem to remember a Yankee pennant when I was a kid with a team picture inserted in a similar spot though the opening was horizontal rather than vertical. Maybe in the 1960's sometime but I could be totally wrong.
I've seen that pennant as well as a 1962 Giants NL Champs pennant and others but, as you say, those openings are aligned horizontally...
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I'm almost certain this is a player pennant from the 1960's. I have never seen a Giants player pennant but I have either seen or have players from the Twins, Packers, North Stars, Angels, A's, Dodgers, Tigers and Cubs. I'm sure there are others out there as well. They were made in Winona, Minnesota during the 1960's through the mid 1970's. The majority of the player pennants you see are Minnesota Twins players.
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Default Somewhat similar Angels pennant

I've seen these somewhat similar Angels pennants.
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Definitely a star player or at least a starter's picture would have filled that void.... Mays, McCovey, Hart, Alou, Davenport, Marichal, Perry and the like...

Must've had a very limited production run for so few of these to survive. Doesn't it suck when you have virtually everything? Then you resort to finding pieces literally with holes in them, just to add something new!

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Hey Mark. Have you ever seen any Reds players used for these pennants?


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I've seen these somewhat similar Angels pennants.
VERY similar, I would say! The cutout is exactly the same . I'd still like to seem some others drw11 mentioned.

Albie Pearson, huh? Not proud to say, I had to look him up. Pretty unimpessive stats to win a ROY although he did later lead the league in caught stealings!

P.S. Could you maybe post a pic of the reverse?
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Hey Mark. Have you ever seen any Reds players used for these pennants?


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I've never seen any of the individual Reds Players in this style of Pennant. Just the full-sized 1960s pennants with entire Team Picture.

How about you? I would think that if they existed, they would include players like Rose, Perez, May, Pinson, Edwards, Helms, Harper, Ruiz, Cardenas, McRae, Maloney, etc. The era just prior to Big Red Machine... probably just before Bench.

Wishful thinking of course... I doubt these even exist

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I thought I'd post one a acquired a while back. Same pic as on the 69' button.

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Chris...

I've never seen any of the individual Reds Players in this style of Pennant. Just the full-sized 1960s pennants with entire Team Picture.

How about you? I would think that if they existed, they would include players like Rose, Perez, May, Pinson, Edwards, Helms, Harper, Ruiz, Cardenas, McRae, Maloney, etc. The era just prior to Big Red Machine... probably just before Bench.

Wishful thinking of course... I doubt these even exist
I just did an eBay search.....found a 3/4 size Killebrew, a Denny McClain (maybe also 3/4) and a more modern Rose.

For what it's worth, my picture-less Giants is full size.
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I've seen an Aaron and Mathews - Milwaukee Braves
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I've seen Banks, Williams, Santo........Cubs.
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^^^^^^

I want pictures!!!
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Here's a later Hank Aaron (sorry for crappy image) and a killer Roberto Clemente...
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A couple of Ernie Banks variations....
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Yaz, from same series...
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The Aaron has the same slant to the opening (as did the Pearson on pg. 1)

Are the Banks and Clemente full size?
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Yaz, cubs power Banks and Reggie are obviously the same series....but not the same series as my Giants.
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Mark,

I've never seen any Reds players from that era but I sure would like to!
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Rob.... That's right (I should have been more specific)

Chris... They must have never been produced for Cincy (we would've seen something by now )
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Yaz, cubs power Banks and Reggie are obviously the same series....but not the same series as my Giants.
looks like these were 20"....the other Banks and similars were 13".....and the Pearson, Giants, etc are full size.
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The Blue Ernie Banks is just under 14" in length

The Red Ernie Banks is 20" in length

Interestingly, these next two Cubs variations feature similar graphics to the 20" (Red) Ernie Banks. But I believe these are both full-sized 29" pennants. I am 99% sure of it, despite Legendary neglecting to mention the size in their description...

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Here's a later Hank Aaron (sorry for crappy image) and a killer Roberto Clemente...
Great Clemente. Same with the Reggie
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That was the Reggie Jackson that I had as well and I sold the Albie Pearson and two other Angels pennants about a month ago on eBay. I will post pictures of a few different ones when I get a chance.
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Here are a few pictures.





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That is one nice group of pennants!!!
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The Blue Ernie Banks is just under 14" in length

The Red Ernie Banks is 20" in length

Interestingly, these next two Cubs variations feature similar graphics to the 20" (Red) Ernie Banks. But I believe these are both full-sized 29" pennants. I am 99% sure of it, despite Legendary neglecting to mention the size in their description...

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Lot...entoryid=21200
The more I look at all these examples, I'm beginning to think my Giants is the only one that might be a full size single player (not team) pennant. Even the proportions on the Pearson make it not look full size. Same on all those great Twins. What's the skinny, DWR?
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All of the player photo pennants that I have seen have been the mid size 20 or so inch pennant. I have not seen a full size player photo pennant made by the company in Winona, Minnesota.
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All of the player photo pennants that I have seen have been the mid size 20 or so inch pennant. I have not seen a full size player photo pennant made by the company in Winona, Minnesota.
great info to know. I never would have thought the Twins would be the "leader" in picture pennants but with their proximity to Wincraft, it makes sense. I also never would have learned so much about my picture-less pennant without the good folks from N54. This is why I joined.

P.S. my ebay seller says he bought the Giants example NEW and it never had a picture . The seller lives in MN.
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Here is the Ron Santo 14 inch version which I sold around 8 months ago. I know there is a Billy Williams version of this as well.
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This is getting very interesting (at least for me ). My Giants pennant is soft felt and fullsized. The seller originally said he got in 1982. I emailed him again and here's the full story:

"The pennant is from the 1950's or 1960's it was in a storage room at WinCraft in Winona, MN. I received it from a relative who was cleaning out an old store room. I received it in 1982 but it is much much older. The other pennants with that look are from the late 1950's and early 1960's. For example I've seen a MN Twins pennant w/ a Harmon Killabrew card in it."

Mark (perezfan) told me he equates Wincraft with stiff modern pennants (as did I) but the company has apparently been around since 1961.

One more thing....the pennant below looked full size to me but it is 20". I'm pretty stoked to have maybe the only full size player photo pennant (prototype, perhaps?)

One more, more thing....I usually only see Giants pennants. It would be nice to have a thread where we all compare the similar pennant themes used by multiple teams....
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I threw in a Mays pic from one of the souvenir photo packs the Giants used to sell. The earlier pics were b&w and may be more appropriate but the pics say "Willie Mays, Giants" and the "Giants" seems a bit redundant. This particular pic is just a test - I'm not thrilled, in that Willie is a TAD too tall. Also, attached is a pic I found that shows the reverse of a Yankees team photo pennant.
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