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Old 11-01-2013, 08:41 AM
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Scanning my ebay searches and found these just shaking my head at the grades, at least both sellers point out the obvious issues each card has-

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1910-T210-6-...item2c759558fc

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1928-W502-St...item51b3eeddc8
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:02 AM
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Human error unfortunately.
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Call Joe and get his side of the story 888-469-2646. He's awaiting your phone call
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I thought that three graders had to view each lot. How could these have been passed by all three?
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:22 AM
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I thought that three graders had to view each lot. How could these have been passed by all three?
Meet the three graders...


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Answer: someone who clearly doesn't love his significant other AND who doesn't mind getting raped at San Quentin.
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Old 11-01-2013, 11:17 AM
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What are you guys doing, buying the card instead of the flip? What a blasphemous idea.
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I thought that three graders had to view each lot. How could these have been passed by all three?
that was stated to be not true by Joe O himself....

only 1 grader looks
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Answer: someone who clearly doesn't love his significant other AND who doesn't mind getting raped at San Quentin.
man you are like a broken record....enough already

calvin, do you make any baseball card related posts? or only veiled lawyer threats...

its guys like you that propogate the negative connotation that lawyers have...

you sure add a lot to this forum!....NOT
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Honestly, that makes me sick. Any chance a slab has been compromised?
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Whoa! It's looks like a dog chewed off a corner of that T210 PSA 4
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man you are like a broken record....enough already

calvin, do you make any baseball card related posts? or only veiled lawyer threats...

its guys like you that propogate the negative connotation that lawyers have...

you sure add a lot to this forum!....NOT
Scott, I've seen some amazing card stuff from Jeff and he posts some good stuff as well as some funny stuff.

He has however not filled my PM box with family values lectures. He also hasn’t tried to dig for revenge dirt or sent PM’s implying that I might be an African American corrupt Politian from Philadelphia that has a similar name. He has also yet to lecture me on his superior education and degrees like others I know of over a simple disagreement.

So I would say Jeff is ok wouldn’t you agree?
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man you are like a broken record....enough already

calvin, do you make any baseball card related posts? or only veiled lawyer threats...

its guys like you that propogate the negative connotation that lawyers have...

you sure add a lot to this forum!....NOT
You can't afford an opening bid on one of the Goldin Auction lots and you think I care what you think about lawyers?
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Scott, I've seen some amazing card stuff from Jeff and he posts some good stuff as well as some funny stuff.

He has however not filled my PM box with family values lectures. He also hasn’t tried to dig for revenge dirt or sent PM’s implying that I might be an African American corrupt Politian from Philadelphia that has a similar name. He has also yet to lecture me on his superior education and degrees like others I know of over a simple disagreement.

So I would say Jeff is ok wouldn’t you agree?
John, I agree that Jeff has amazing Cobb and Chase collections. However, seriously, have you been reading some of Jeff's posts these days? (like the one directly above)

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You can't afford an opening bid on one of the Goldin Auction lots and you think I care what you think about lawyers?
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You can't afford an opening bid on one of the Goldin Auction lots and you think I care what you think about lawyers?
ouch that hurt! im so poor I cant afford a $10,000 opening bid...

your classless mr Litchman, as many of your posts will attest to....

you give lawyers a REAL BAD TIME smart guy....

let me guess...you chase ambulances.....

over litigation may be the MAIN cause of most problems in the US...

shut down some of these fly by night law schools, make less lawyers, and this world will be a better place....
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Old 11-01-2013, 02:14 PM
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Back on topic, I wonder if PSA is hiring anytime soon. Guarantee I could grade better than what I see in the two auctions in this thread. Plus I wouldn't mind a move to California. Orlando's number still floating around on the board?
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Old 11-01-2013, 02:20 PM
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keep posting all those things about joe o....

You don't think a publically traded company will sit on their hands while they are being slandered by you?

And i wont right on the public message board what i and 99% of americans feel about lawyers...your hated
lololol lololololol
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i would love to show you my w-2 if you showed me yours wise ass...

But then you probably don't have the balls, like most lawyers...

Would love to compare to put you in your place

scum of the earth
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lololololololol
great comeback jeffy...

knew you didn't have the balls
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you spineless type love posting private messages...
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Someone must have pissed in Scott's Cheerios this morning.

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"over litigation may be the MAIN cause of most problems in the US..."

Yeah, if only clients would stop hiring those damn lawyers, most problems would go away!!
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Scott, unless you own Fandango, I don't think you're going to match W2s with one of our most famous board members.
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Yeah, if only clients would stop hiring those damn lawyers, most problems would go away!!
Pffft another ambulance chaser who went to a "fly by night law school."
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Yeah I've had some classic PMs from mister Fandango as well.....good times welcome to the club Jeff.
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Why do people constantly complain about what people post? Enough already!

Does anybody force you to read it?

Blah blah blahzy blah

Everybody hates lawyers until they need one.
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Pffft another ambulance chaser who went to a "fly by night law school."
An ambulance chaser would be a step up for your kind.

Then you could compile civil actions into a class action.
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Then you could compile civil actions into a class action.
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Not sure why this happens. If their call is usually right, mistakes expected, though not way off.

It would appear to be a hazard of use of grading companies. But of course a hazard/risk of anything we deal with. Most of my grades from SGC or PSA have seemed right on the mark.

In my field, it would be a person's risk/hazard of dealing with the medical industry. In the grading card case, you can try and get it corrected(asking for review/regrade), in medicine, sometimes cant fix it.
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I can understand mistakes, making them myself.

However I can't believe that the world's leading TPG company would have a single grader on even a bad day that could think that a VG-EX card could have a corner that looks like a mouse chewed it off or a big blob of paperloss that affects the image.
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...I can't believe that the world's leading TPG company would have a single grader on even a bad day that could think that a VG-EX card could have a corner that looks like a mouse chewed it off or a big blob of paperloss that affects the image.
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www.ebay.com/itm/301002771208

Looks like I can become a lawyer for less than seven dollars. I hope no one shills me at the end...
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Looks like I can become a lawyer for less than seven dollars. I hope no one shills me at the end...
$20.10 including shipping for the Buy It Now. Why don't we split it?
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So you're looking for a "firm", eh?
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I can understand mistakes, making them myself.

However I can't believe that the world's leading TPG company would have a single grader on even a bad day that could think that a VG-EX card could have a corner that looks like a mouse chewed it off or a big blob of paperloss that affects the image.
Terrible grading, and I'm 64, wear glasses and have no training.

I'm convinced that TPGs are a benefit to the hobby, if only to facilitate non-personal transactions, but this shows they can be their own worst enemy. I don't know squat about business (MBA dropout) but grading companies should have at least two people looking at all cards in my view -- an initial grader and his supervisor who should review for egregious errors. There is no way these cards should have left the building.

And, I'll put in a word for lawyers, especially those in federal service. In 30 years I found the vast majority to be bright, hard-working folks trying to do the right thing.

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Its bad enough to see one of those but two in 5 minutes of my searches, ouch. I also understand mistakes happen but those two cards shown fall under serious issues with quality control. They fall well beyond the grader missed something.....give me a break, a corner missing.
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Back for sale, 4th time in 3 months.......

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1928-W502-St...item1c39223c30

11/3/13 eBay Auction | Image prewarcardcollector 8***g 16 $383.00
10/22/13 eBay Auction | Image obxhouses4rent r***t 31 $491.00
8/8/13 eBay Auction | Image sgt.hoss t***m 1 $300.00


This card really needs to be sent back to PSA
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