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Old 03-19-2023, 04:34 PM
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Jake Daubert...still ranks second all-time with 392 successful bunt attempts.
Daubert is credited with 392 sacrifice hits, but between 1908 and 1925 a fly ball that allowed a runner to score was considered a sacrifice hit (just like a successful bunt); there was no separate statistic for sacrifice flies. Daubert was certainly a good bunter, but his record for sacrifice hits is not directly comparable to the records for players after 1925.
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Just curious - What are your opinions on postal cancellations on the post cards?

I like seeing the date/city where the post card was used. What' really nice are cancellations for different dates with baseball historical significance.

Does anybody know how widespread "fake" cancellations are? This is the part that sucks - you find a neat niche and somebody has to figure out a way to capitalize on it and screw things up.

What's the best way to try to determine if a postal cancellation is "faked"?

Perhaps I should just start a new thread on that topic. Holy cow - I didn't realize this thread is over 1750 posts - wow!
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Just curious - What are your opinions on postal cancellations on the post cards?

I like seeing the date/city where the post card was used. What' really nice are cancellations for different dates with baseball historical significance.

Does anybody know how widespread "fake" cancellations are? This is the part that sucks - you find a neat niche and somebody has to figure out a way to capitalize on it and screw things up.

What's the best way to try to determine if a postal cancellation is "faked"?

Perhaps I should just start a new thread on that topic. Holy cow - I didn't realize this thread is over 1750 posts - wow!
Good question - I like a postmark because it can identify the team, give you a starting point for research, and help justify the results.

Forgery schemes are for profit - the postmark and the stamp add nostalgia, but as far as value, I can't recall seeing a postmarked card grading higher than - "Authentic" - "1" or "1.5" by any grading company - probably because this feature could be faked and/or is not part of the original card. Those seem to be the automatic "default" grades for mailed cards.

In our hobby, the higher the grade, the higher the value - thus, it makes more sense not to postmark or add writing to a postcard.

Where I could see something like this being done, are for historic events - like a postcard of the Titanic being mailed the day of departure... I would guess those are the postcards that should be scrutinized most.
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The 1913 Chattanooga Lookouts (Class A) with 19-year old pitcher Burleigh Grimes (HOF) (back row 3rd on left) who had a 6-7 record on the year. The "Giant Killer" and ace of the staff, 27-year old Harry Coveleski (back row far left) was 28-9 for the season. Kid Elberfeld (front row center) managed the team to 4th place and an overall 70-64 record.
I'm not saying that it isn't Grimes (3rd from left, back row), but I'm having a hard time seeing how his face changed so much from 1912, when he was with the Austin Bills, to 1913 with Chattanooga. Also, Grimes was only 5'10" tall, and with some guys on the roster standing at 6'2"-6'5" (per statscrew), I would argue that it's one of those guys and not Grimes. Perhaps one of the other fellows is Grimes? Or perhaps he missed the day of the photo shoot? See below for an early image of Grimes with the 1912 Austin Bills:
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I'd have to agree with Derek on this one. I do not recognize Grimes amongst the group.

Furthermore, this post card shows the Lookouts schedule on the reverse which means that it was created prior to the beginning of the season.

https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/burleigh-grimes/

But this article on sabr.org tells us that:

"(Grimes) started the 1913 season with the Ottumwa (Iowa) Packers of the Central Association, where he was so effective that the Detroit Tigers purchased his contract for $400. After a week the Tigers shipped Grimes to Class A Chattanooga without his ever having put on a Detroit uniform."

Which means that Grimes would not have been present for a pre season photoshoot.
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I'd have to agree with Derek on this one. I do not recognize Grimes amongst the group.

Furthermore, this post card shows the Lookouts schedule on the reverse which means that it was created prior to the beginning of the season.

https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/burleigh-grimes/

But this article on sabr.org tells us that:

"(Grimes) started the 1913 season with the Ottumwa (Iowa) Packers of the Central Association, where he was so effective that the Detroit Tigers purchased his contract for $400. After a week the Tigers shipped Grimes to Class A Chattanooga without his ever having put on a Detroit uniform."

Which means that Grimes would not have been present for a pre season photoshoot.
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That image was surely taken before the 1913 season started and before Grimes was sent from Ottumwa to Chattanooga.
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Here’s a couple of Arkansas cards.
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Old 03-24-2023, 08:35 AM
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Here’s a couple of Arkansas cards.
Walter Johnson pitched in that ballpark.
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Walter Johnson pitched in that ballpark.
That’s crazy, he pitched in the ballpark in my old hometown as well. The things you learn! Thanks for that info.
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A couple recent pick ups for me, an Oakland City Walkovers, and one from the 3 game series between Prineville and Portland Oregon.
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New arrival, AZO postage marking puts it at between 1918 and 1930. Lots of sailors in their whites pictured here.
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Ty Cobb postcards are highly collectible, and gaining in popularity along with value every year. RPPCs are starting to come into play for postcard collectors as they are unique and it’s rare to find multiples of the same image. I was fortunate enough to pickup this 1916 RPPC (bottom picture) with a crystal clear image of the Georgia peach. It makes a great addition to my 1910 tour of Cuba RPPC (top left picture). The other card (top right) is a from a series of cards issued by the Hubel hotel of the Detroit Tigers team and few are known to exist.
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Not sure if this Fold out post card has been shown yet. I see more interest in Cy Young cards lately. 1908 H. N. Dickerman postcards are pretty darn rare and can also be found using political figures as well.
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Those are really nice, Jaycee....nice pick ups
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These don't seem worthy after the last few posts, but here they are anyway (some with 1911 postmarks) :
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Old 07-14-2023, 11:23 PM
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Ninteen-year old Roger Peckinpaugh with the 1910 New Haven Prairie Hens. In 1925, he was the American League MVP with the Washington Senators.
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Old 07-21-2023, 05:22 PM
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Default Ed Walsh - Autographed HOF Postcard

Happy to have just picked up this 1946-52 Artvue HOF postcard of Ed Walsh (PSA label incorrectly identifies it as 1953-55). Nice bold signature from September 1950 - that is also Ed Walsh's handwriting on the back of the postcard. Tough signature to find, as he died in May 1959.
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I’m looking for this RPPC of the 1910 Charleston, WV team. It previously sold twice in 2013. I’m doing family research and believe a relative is in this photo. Would be looking for a high resolution photo or willing to buy at the right price!

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I picked up the two baseball PCs a few years ago. The three football PCs I got a about a month ago, the middle one was a local pickup.
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New arrival today. Been missing in the mail for a few weeks. Postmarked 1910.
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Old 08-20-2023, 11:50 AM
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Default Kid Nichols (HOF) - 1908 Oshkosh Indians

Kid Nichols, player/manager of the Class-D, 1908 Oshkosh Indians - back row w/white sweater. It appears, the glass plate negative was cracked when this RPPC was printed in 1908.

Kid Nichols won 362 games in the major leagues - he won 30 or more games in a season seven times.
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Picked up two new ones that arrived today. The “make a run for you” postcard appears to be early 1900s.

I especially like the Packy McFarland (of T218 fame) postcard teaching boxing to the Knights of Columbus.
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I just received this in a nice trade.

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Default Frank "Homerun" Baker (HOF) - 1909 Philadelphia Athletics

A rare 1909 RPPC of 23-year old third baseman Frank "Homerun" Baker (HOF) of the Philadelphia Athletics during his rookie season. Card is postmarked 30 July 1909 from St. Louis, MO.
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Not sure if I've already posted this one here.
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Top: 1972 Richard Petty signed PC
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Adam - those Richard Petty postcards are awesome! I didn’t even know those existed…
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One from my upcoming auction, right in the heart of Leon's interest of the odd and usual Postcard, a large group of players and fans from a 1909 western Kansas Baseball RPPC. The man in the center front row brandishing his six-shooter.
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One from my upcoming auction, right in the heart of Leon's interest of the odd and usual Postcard, a large group of players and fans from a 1909 western Kansas Baseball RPPC. The man in the center front row brandishing his six-shooter.
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One from my upcoming auction, right in the heart of Leon's interest of the odd and usual Postcard, a large group of players and fans from a 1909 western Kansas Baseball RPPC. The man in the center front row brandishing his six-shooter.

That's a cool postcard!
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Default Sam Crawford (HOF) autographed postcard

Sam Crawford (HOF) autographed this card twice (front and back) in 1964. Interesting that he annotated his hit total at 3,051 hits, in contrast to 2,964 hits annotated on his HOF plaque. Another record Crawford still holds is for the most inside the park home runs for a season (12) and for a career (51)
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Sam Crawford (HOF) autographed this card twice (front and back) in 1964. Interesting that he annotated his hit total at 3,051 hits, in contrast to 2,964 hits annotated on his HOF plaque. Another record Crawford still holds is for the most inside the park home runs for a season (12) and for a career (51)




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Any idea who the player in the dark uniform is? Looks like Walter Schmidt maybe

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Default Elmer Flick (HOF) - Autographed Postcard

Hall of Fame postcard autographed on the front and initialed on the back by Elmer Flick (HOF) - on the backside he proudly boasts of the batting title he won in 1905, commenting that himself and Willie Keeler were the only two players that batted over .300 that year. Flick notes his batting average at .306, however, Baseball-Reference.com lists him at .308 in 1905

Signed in 1964, the 88-year old great, talks that these were the days of the "Spitter" and "Emery" ball in the hands of great pitchers like Jack Chesbro who won 41 games (1904) and Ed Walsh who won 40 games (1908)
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Autographed postcard of "The King" Richard Petty from 1992. He raced from 1958 to 1992 - saying, "No one wants to quit when he's losing and no one wants to quit when he's winning." Richard Petty won 200 NASCAR races, including the Daytona 500 seven times - his father Lee, was the winner of the first Daytona 500 race in 1959.
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Default Eddie Collins (HOF) - Columbia University

Eddie Collins (HOF) entered Columbia University in 1903. Although just 5 foot 9 inches, he was quarterback and captain of the school football team, and the starting shortstop on the University baseball team for three years.

I would guess this is a class team photo. I did notice, a couple players also appear to be in a 1905 varsity team photo with Collins.

Although still in school, Eddie Collins joined a semi-pro team in the summer of 1906, playing under the name "Eddie Sullivan". The practice was not unusual among college players and he probably would have gotten away with it if his playing hadn't attracted the attention of the Philadelphia Athletics. They signed him to a contract and he actually got into six games before returning to Columbia for his senior year.

Once his professional playing was discovered, Collins was declared ineligible for his senior season. He was allowed to stay on as a coach while he completed his degree.
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Eddie Collins (HOF) entered Columbia University in 1903. Although just 5 foot 9 inches, he was quarterback and captain of the school football team, and the starting shortstop on the University baseball team for three years.

I would guess this is a class team photo. I did notice, a couple players also appear to be in a 1905 varsity team photo with Collins.

Although still in school, Eddie Collins joined a semi-pro team in the summer of 1906, playing under the name "Eddie Sullivan". The practice was not unusual among college players and he probably would have gotten away with it if his playing hadn't attracted the attention of the Philadelphia Athletics. They signed him to a contract and he actually got into six games before returning to Columbia for his senior year.

Once his professional playing was discovered, Collins was declared ineligible for his senior season. He was allowed to stay on as a coach while he completed his degree.
Eddie Collins is not shown here. I have a photo of him from the same period. He looks very similar to the Eddie Collins we know from the majors as a young adult, (as he of course should) none of these guys are even close. I'll attach the photo. I personally don't even think they are Columbia University, to me they look about 13-15 years old and none match the 1905 team photo in my eyes. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

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Cool postcard. Can you post an image of its back?
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Default KiKi Cuyler (HOF) - Cabinet Photo

This is a cabinet photo, but thought it would be of interest on this thread.

Appears to be a young "KiKi" Cuyler (HOF) in the back row, second from the left. My research shows this ball team is the 1311 Elks of Willimantic, Connecticut. Cuyler was from Michigan, so not sure why he would be at this location - unless he had relatives nearby... I contacted the lodge but they had no information.

Cuyler's father had at one time, worked on the Great Lakes in the Life Saving Service, so there may be a connection to Connecticut through the Coast Guard
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Thanks to a great board member, I have a couple new postcards. First, a Guy Lafluer pre rookie card which has a very low pop, and second a Brush Postcard with my favorite player of Ty Cobb.
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Similar views of 1930s Davenport, Iowa, and its multi-sport ballpark on the banks of the Mississippi. These days, the Davenport park hosts baseball alone and added protection from recurring high waters. Note it retains that squared-off left field edge, echoing the former football end zone.
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