Does this Goodwin Keefe look legit?

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Posted By: James Feagin

Opinions please, and if legit what is the value in said condition?

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Posted By: B.C.Daniels

too bleach out like reprints unless the scan contrast is just weird.

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Posted By: steve f

from the Library of Congress collection; red flags; The red stripes and greenish sky. The white card back... Check the print dots for inconsistencies. Good luck

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Posted By: James Feagin

Definitely a fake, thanks a lot guys! Almost bid on a bad one.

James

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Posted By: fkw

Dont know why you think its a fake?

Top one Looks good to me in every way. I bid but it went over my snipe.

The dark staining front and back and stuck white paper (or paper lose) on bottom left is 100% in line, and the surface wear (tiny white spots) on front and on right edge of picture and surface wear to the back and the corner wear looks 100% OK too. The 2 cracks at top right side near the big white dot looks OK too and consistant with this issue. Surface chipping (large and small dots of white) is a problem with this issue.


IMO I think the Library of Congress card has too much yellow color to the scans.

Here is another one that is SGC-50, next to the one on eBay tonight. All scanners and scans are slightly different.


Frank

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Posted By: Judge Dred (Fred)

The item description or check out section indicates that there is NO RETURN on this item. That's a red flag but when I contacted the seller they said that they'd refund the winning bid amount if the card was a reprint. It was less than $300 so it's kind of a scarey proposition.

With all that said I believe it's REAL. It's a bit hard to determine by looking at the scan but it does look real (I guess a lot of reprints on ebay do look a bit real). I would have bid on that card if the seller would have provided a larger scan of the card as I had requested. I sure hope it's real for the buyer's sake - nobody likes those kinds of headaches.

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Posted By: leon

It doesn't look fake to me either.....

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Posted By: Keith O'Leary

I've handled a fair number of these and have seen all shades.

 

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Posted By: Harry Wallace (HW)

It is always more difficult to tell from just a scan, but it looks good to me.

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Posted By: James Feagin

I think it's a fake because the LOC has a "lithograph and factory" designation, the one for sale does not.

James

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Posted By: Ben

Authentic N162's come both with and without the "Geo S. Harris & Sons" line of small text at the bottom. I remember wondering this when I first got a N162 without the line. The Keefe in question is legit, and I think someone got a good deal on it.

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Posted By: fkw

I never knew they came with and without line at bottom. I did a search...

Here is a scan (below) of the backs of 3 nonbaseball N162's. I know its not easy to see but 2 dont have the line and 1 does.

I still think the Library of Congress scans, even thought they are very high quality, are a bit yellow especially the backs.

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Posted By: Zach Rice

It was real and a great price, I was the underbidder