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Well, I cracked some cards from various holders and submitted the cards "raw" to PSA and asked them to be graded with NO Qualifiers. I collect hockey cards so the results will likely vary to other sports. Generally speaking I'm pretty happy with the results but, there are definitely some discrepancies..without a doubt KSA cards are risky...Here are the results..
Cards submitted..1965 Topps Hockey Toe Blake was Beckett 7 now PSA 8 Gump Worsley was SGC 7 now PSA 7 Jean Beliveau was KSA 8 now PSA 5 Billy Harris was "raw" now PSA 6.5 Glenn Hall was "raw" now PSA 5 Al MacNeil was Beckett 7 now PSA 6 Stan Mikita was SGC 8 now PSA 8 Ken Wharram was "raw" now PSA 8 (looked like a 9 to me) Terry Harper was Becket 7 now PSA 5 Tim Horton was KSA 8 now PSA 7 Frank Mahovlich was Becket 7 now PSA 6 Phil Goyette was KSA 7 now PSA 6 Elmer vasko was "raw" now PSA 7 Phil Esposito was "raw" now PSA 4.5 (Card had great colour and centring, was looking for a grade between 5 or 6) Last but not least #121 Checklist (unmarked and slightly off centre) was KSA 8 now PSA 5 The results speak for themselves, cracking out cards carries some risk, but finding a good "raw" card is likely the best route to go..KSA graded cards are definitely not worth "cracking out of their holders"..Do so at your own peril. |
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Interesting.
Thank you for posting this. |
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I think the fact that none of the KSA cards came back as altered is something of a good sign though. I certainly wouldn't trust that you could duplicate that with a similar number of GAI graded cards.
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Agreed, I bought a ksa gretzky 8.5 rc in a whim, hoping it was not trimmed. Awaiting the results!
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Grading by any company is a crapshoot at best
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Leon Luckey Last edited by Leon; 03-13-2017 at 08:51 AM. |
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This only happens to other people...
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My experience with Beckett is the same - Crack at your own peril. Usually 1 full grade less as evidenced by 3 of your 4 subs.
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I am not much of a fan of the card grading system. I think that some times the grading can be quite arbitrary. For example......years ago I acquired this Jennings card
which had been graded SGC A. It "bugged" me that SGC had not given it a numerical grade, so recently I cracked it open and submitted it back to SGC. And this time, SGC graded it an SGC 60. Hey, I'm not complaining. I like the Ex grade (which, in my opinion this card should have been graded initially). ![]() ![]() ![]() TED Z . |
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... Grading companies are providing an opinion. That is all. At one particular time somebody who has some training and experience looking at cards thought that the card was in a certain condition... I was just looking at a PSA 9 that I have that has a bent corner... ughh.... It happens... both ways.... It doesn't really bother me unless it is terribly obvious... but even that it understandable with the law of averages... Just my 2 cents... I agree that the 1911 AB should have gotten a numerical grade if the size measures up...
Unless high end computers were doing the work... we will always have these discrepancies....
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