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Old 02-10-2018, 02:31 PM
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Hi. Has anyone seen a "Second Base" card from this series? The REA lot that sold sometime back did not include one. Regards, Jeff
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Well, given the lack of any response, I'll try another angle. I'm trying to get some information on the attached women's baseball players silk. From what I can tell, the image is shared with the scarce N694 Risido card series. Based on the position of the players, I'm guessing this would be "Second Baseman". I was hoping that someone here would have the corresponding N694 image to confirm. The silk measures approximately 5.75" x 4.25". Possible point of purchase marketing piece for the series? It clearly comes from the same time period. Thoughts? Jeff
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Old 02-13-2018, 10:21 AM
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I can't help out on info but that is a cool silk. Certainly looks to be some kind of premium. I would have to guess that there is info out in the hobby but it's not easily found. Good luck in the quest. Sometimes the harder it is to find info the more gratifying it is when it is found.
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Old 02-13-2018, 10:36 AM
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Jeff -

That image was used in the 1884 Allen & Ginter/Virginia Brights Polka Dot Nine series. Those were catalogued as the H807-2 set by Burdick in the ACC. That image is card No. 8 in the set.

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Well, given the lack of any response, I'll try another angle. I'm trying to get some information on the attached women's baseball players silk. From what I can tell, the image is shared with the scarce N694 Risido card series. Based on the position of the players, I'm guessing this would be "Second Baseman". I was hoping that someone here would have the corresponding N694 image to confirm. The silk measures approximately 5.75" x 4.25". Possible point of purchase marketing piece for the series? It clearly comes from the same time period. Thoughts? Jeff
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That's pretty cool! I really appreciate the information. Has anyone else come across any other silks from the A&G "Polka Dot Nine" series of cabinet cards? I've attached a picture of the Crop of 1884 No 8 cabinet card for reference. Regards, Jeff
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No problem - I haven't seen others. I'm also curious about the dating. The other tobacco silks I know of are more from the early 1900s/1910s. I don't have my copy of the ACC handy so not sure when they really began printing them.

The set the image is from is from 1884 but I wonder if the silks were produced later than that.
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Interesting question about the production date. There was a companion silk included in the sale that also featured baseball (teams playing in background). Given the horse and buggy scene in the foreground, my best guess is that these would have been produced in the 1880's as well. Could this pair possibly represent the first baseball scenes produced on silk? Anyone else have any early silks featuring baseball? Regards, Jeff
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I don't have any at hand but believe I have seen some olders silks such as these before. That said a baseball scene on a silk from the 1880s is very early. BTW, the ACC doesn't give exact dates but lists Silks in the 1912-1915 time frame. No mention of these that I can find.
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Thanks, Leon - I'm without my ACC right now but that's about what I was thinking with regards to the dating.
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FWIW, A&G cigarettes were produced with ~3 year old crops at that time. I have two 1888 cigarette packs that are dated June 26th and Dec. 18th 1888 that both advertise being from the "Crop of 1885". Most of the "Crop of 1884" A&G items likely date to ~1887.
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