E95 Plank--PWCC auction

[vintagetoppsguy]

There is still some confusion about requesting no qualifiers. Please read post #29. It is a screen shot from PSAs website, "there are certain qualifiers that PSA will not remove such as MK."

It's right there in black and white. You cannot request no qualifiers when the card has a mark. If you see a card that has a mark but has no MK qualifier, PSA simply overlooked the mark.

Nice card, Leon. PSA missed the check mark. As for the card itself, it has several minor creases to warrant the grade of 2.5. The proper grade would have been PSA 2.5 MK

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

The proper grade would have been PSA 2.5 MK

There are no half grades with qualifiers. Either one or the other. Here is the marked card that PSA just gave a straight 5.

1968 Topps - [Base] #66.1 - Casey Cox (Yellow Team Name) [SGC*20]
Courtesy of COMC.com

As you can see, it has red scribble marker on the jersey and "blood tears" in both eyes. I was floored when it popped as an unqualified card. I think their website is wrong, and they do downgrade cards to remove MK qualifiers.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by swarmee

There are no half grades with qualifiers.

Tell that to PSA...

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by swarmee

...they do downgrade cards to remove MK qualifiers.

Kind of like there's no half grades with qualifiers, huh?

Lots of misinformation in this thread. I blame it all in PWCC

[darwinbulldog]

The second they decided you could get a 1 with a qualifier but not a 10 with a qualifier they undercut their entire explanation for the qualifiers' purpose.

[swarmee]

A 1.5 Fair is not actually a half grade in their opinion.

https://www.psacard.com/resources/gr...andards/#cards

Click on the box about half-point grades. It states "For example, there will not be cards graded PSA NM-MT Plus 8.5 OC or PSA EX-MT Plus 6.5 PD since the half-point is reserved for high-end cards within each grade."
So a 2.5(MK) is not possible, and actually won't fit on their Pop Report charts the way they're laid out, since there are separate fields for + (half-grades) and Q (qualifiers). However, since 1.5 FAIR gets its own column, it is not actually a half-grade and therefore, I guess, PSA allows qualifiers on them.

[cammb]

Why are we justifying the grade of PSA 3? I don't care how nice it looks. It has been tampered with and deserves an Authentic and nothing else

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by cammb

Why are we justifying the grade of PSA 3? I don't care how nice it looks. It has been tampered with and deserves an Authentic and nothing else

Surely any card with a MK qualifier has been tampered with, no? What's the difference between writing a letter on it and stamping a letter on it?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

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Nice card, Leon. PSA missed the check mark. As for the card itself, it has several minor creases to warrant the grade of 2.5. The proper grade would have been PSA 2.5 MK

There are no creases or wrinkles that I can see under magnification. Try another answer please. Personally I think whomever submitted it got it done without the MK and a lower grade because of it. I know what their site says...

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Leon

There are no creases or wrinkles that I can see under magnification. Try another answer please. Personally I think whomever submitted it got it done without the MK and a lower grade because of it. I know what their site says...

Look at the back. Right above "GEORGE" is a crease. Everything below "GOUDEY GUM CO. BOSTON" has many spider wrinkles.

A PSA 2.5 is accurate given the creases. I'm not knocking the card. I would love to own it. But it is graded accurately.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Let's stick with SGC, it makes so much more sense -- 50 55 60 70 80 82 84 etc.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Let's stick with SGC, it makes so much more sense -- 50 55 60 70 80 82 84 etc.

Failed attempt at sarcasm. SGC still lists the numeric 10 point grade on the flip (e.g. 55 = 4.5, 60 = 5, 70 = 5.5, etc) so what's the difference?

Don't you have another PWCC bash thread to start?

[Peter_Spaeth]

When I have one to start, David, you will see it. Now back to your gratuitous hostility...

PS A system with varying 10, 8 and 4 point gaps between full grades is odd to me, even if it's laid out on the flip.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

When I have one to start, David, you will see it. Now back to your gratuitous hostility...

No hostility, Peter. I just didn't understand your ridiculous comment about SGC. Nobody is saying that SGC is better than PSA, so why even bring them up in the first place?

[Leon]

Admittedly there are some wrinkles (none go through both sides so to me they are wrinkles but they are there)..... still not sure about the check mark and why it still received a 2.5? Is a 2.5 card with a check mark still a 2.5?

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Look at the back. Right above "GEORGE" is a crease. Everything below "GOUDEY GUM CO. BOSTON" has many spider wrinkles.

A PSA 2.5 is accurate given the creases. I'm not knocking the card. I would love to own it. But it is graded accurately.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Leon

Admittedly there are some wrinkles (none go through both sides so to me they are wrinkles but they are there)..... still not sure about the check mark and why it still received a 2.5? Is a 2.5 card with a check mark still a 2.5?

My guess is they missed the mark as well. The grade never would have been 2.5 mk as qualified cards do not get the half grade bump. I also highly doubt a card that was supposed to have a qualifier but was lowered to a non qualified grade would get the half grade. Half grades are quite rare with PSA and are reserved for cards that have exceptional eye appeal.for the grade level.

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[swarmee]

What happened with the George Brett "blackless" PSA 10 that you listed even though it was just a mechanical flip error? I guess it was pulled after many people reported it to your team. Did it get returned to the owner, or did they agree to send it to PSA as a mechanical error reholder?