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Old 11-30-2017, 11:39 AM
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Default The Kraken Abacus in Action

Here is an example of the Kraken Abacus in action. Please view the below scans.

Note that in the top row Cobb is worth 5 E-Monster points, while the Graham and Plank are worth 4 points each. Each card in the second row (Karger, Shean and Joss throwing) are worth 3 points each. The bottom row of Schlitzer, Hartzell and Donovan are worth 1 point. A few quick flips of the wrist on the Kraken Abacus would result in assigning this collection of 9 E90-1 cards 25 E-Monster points. Please note that condition is not relevant, nor are cards missing large portions downgraded (For example Cobb is still worth 5 points despite the fact that in actual cardboard material he would likely be only equivalent to 4 points, and the Karger would still be 3 points instead of 2.25 points).

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Here is an example of the Kraken Abacus in action. Please view the below scans.

Note that in the top row Cobb is worth 5 E-Monster points, while the Graham and Plank are worth 4 points each. Each card in the second row (Karger, Shean and Joss throwing) are worth 3 points each. The bottom row of Schlitzer, Hartzell and Donovan are worth 1 point. A few quick flips of the wrist on the Kraken Abacus would result in assigning this collection of 9 E90-1 cards 25 E-Monster points. Please note that condition is not relevant, nor are cards missing large portions downgraded (For example Cobb is still worth 5 points despite the fact that in actual cardboard material he would likely be only equivalent to 4 points, and the Karger would still be 3 points instead of 2.25 points).

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Brian,

You may consider the condition of the Cobb irrelevant, but I have never cared for an abdominal gunshot wound victim, who would agree with you.
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Old 11-30-2017, 12:15 PM
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looks like I'm at 111 (not likely to change )
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Please revise me to 187. Picked up four points without adding a card.
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Drop me to 54 Brian....

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Old 08-13-2019, 01:12 PM
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A 57 point drop in Kraken status is also pretty impressive, just in another way.

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Man, no Kraken updates in a few weeks? Here are a couple I picked up this past week. Bump to 110 requested! Thanks to Brian for the Crawford.
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Anson, your Crawford and Lajoie (nice pickups!) have an equal amount of card missing, just in the Crawford it is concentrated in one area. 110 it is...

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Brian,

You may consider the condition of the Cobb irrelevant, but I have never cared for an abdominal gunshot wound victim, who would agree with you.
My gut reaction: I miss that Cobb - but it couldn't be in better hands.
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Old 12-01-2017, 10:47 AM
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All true, but what Paul fails to mention is that Cobb is the true hero in this story...he took the blunt of the attack for his fellow E90-1 ballplayers, but there was still some collateral damage.

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Hmm...I build a spreadsheet to tabulate all of our Kraken numbers but something isn’t adding up.

I have 89 cards that are 1 pointers
I have 32 cards that are toughies, as listed in post #1

But my excel sheet only makes these add to 244, not the coveted 250.
I looked twice , maybe three times but it’s after midnight here...anyone care to check the math again?

To that point, I might have missed something but I have this electronic abacus file available to share so you can easily calculate your own Kraken number, just by clicking either “have” or “need”. There’s even a pie chart and some math formulae to help determine how close you are to the set, and the percentage of common (one pointers) versus “toughies”.

Let me know if you’d like the sheet... of course it needs to be fine tuned since my dreary eyes only see 244 points!
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Old 12-02-2017, 07:05 AM
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Brian,
I agree with your math
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Old 12-02-2017, 10:44 AM
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Ouch. Tony and Brian (not me) are correct. I should stop messing with new math and just figure out things the old fashioned way, utilizing a series of fingers and toes. I checked my abacus and some of the little discs have chunks missing from them, which I assume affects performance as well.

Dammit I didn't want to make another change, but my poor mathematics and that mystical 250 Kraken # requires it. There are three cards that were on the bubble to be elevated from 1 point status to 3 point status. If I had added up correctly before they would have been included. They are:

Bemis - now 3 points instead of 1
O'Connor - now 3 points instead of 1
Seigle - now 3 points instead of 1

I regrettably need to revise (and set in concrete, and then put some sort of concrete shellacking material over top, if such a product exists) the point tallies to reflect this. The complete set should come to 250 points (please double-check me!) and anyone who sees their name on the Kraken list with a 'subject to change' needs to re-figure their official set number.

My apologies,

Brian (the less accurate one)

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Hi Brian P.

My current set (2nd set) consists of the subjects on display here, and 44 commons. Therefore, if my math is correct, my # is 93.


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Old 12-02-2017, 12:29 PM
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Hi Ted, nice tough cards. The total I come up with is 95. Possibly the difference in our totals is that you have shown the Tinker and Chase cards, which are only one point, and thus I have counted them twice (both as part of your 44 commons you mentioned, and since they were scanned for the post). Let us know what the official total is and I will get your Kraken # up there.

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I just updated my Excel spreadsheet, adding all 121 cards to it (previously, I just had the cards I actually own reflected on it), and including the weighting in Brian's first post. I got a total number of 250 also, so it looks like the numbers are correct.

My number of 93 is also correct.

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Can someone post a scan of this variation?
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Great stuff in this thread!

Started grabbing a few e90s I like ! Really liking this set commons to me look better than most other sets of the times

Anyways here the few I've picked up so far
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With the help from Lee (usmcinohio) my #is 196
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Joining the list here, i have 19 cards, but some of the harder ones already clocking in at 61 points. Slow slog…picked up 2 in REA last night, got fatigued on all the lots…would have preferred a group! My best are a speaker (psa 2), a Mitchell (raw), Cobb and Red Keeler. Wish I had prioritized a long time ago (as I am sure you all are thinking….). It has become one of my favorite sets.
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Hi Ted, nice tough cards. The total I come up with is 95. Possibly the difference in our totals is that you have shown the Tinker and Chase cards, which are only one point, and thus I have counted them twice (both as part of your 44 commons you mentioned, and since they were scanned for the post). Let us know what the official total is and I will get your Kraken # up there.

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Your total of 95 is correct. I'm good with that #.

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Is this Speaker the same one that just sold via PWCC in raw form? It looks very similar.
Tedzan’s post from 2017. Ted if you’re still around would you confirm?
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My current set (2nd set) consists of the subjects on display here, and 44 commons. Therefore, if my math is correct, my # is 93.


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