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I believe the consequences of major league sports embracing gambling will only produce more stories like that of your son in the years to come. |
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Thanks! What’s more frustrating is that he’s to the point where I can’t help him anymore. He only lashes out and says very nasty and hateful things. I have to continue to watch him spiral his life out of control. He’s owes $20,000 in back child support and just continues to dig himself in a deeper hole. My worry and fear is that if he goes too deep down the hole, and he feels he has no way out, he will end his life. My worst nightmare! Before gambling, he was a great kid with a good heart.
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I know from personal experience the torment Japanese go through trying to learn foreign languages; still, I think, Ohtani would have been better served if had started an intensive English course when he decided to jump baseball countries.
If he could handle simple press conference questions in English, without the need for a interpreter with whom he formed an intimate relationship, I wonder if this situation would have arisen. |
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Apparently Ohtani is going to speak to the media on Monday. Should be interesting to hear what he has to say.
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It's got all the makings of a great SNL skit. Interpreter saying someting completely different than what Ohtani is saying. John Belushi as Ohtani. Last edited by Shoeless Moe; 03-24-2024 at 06:44 PM. |
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Even if he is guilty I assume MLB would find a way to look the other way given his importance in the game. At first I heard the IRS and FBI were conducting their own investigations. Does anyone know if this is accurate?
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So the more I read the more, the odd progression of the story actually seems to make sense.
As weird as the story is, along with the weird change in the story very early on; It actually makes perfect sense. The first statement by Ohtani's reps WAS TRANSLATED BY THE INTERPRETER. When Ohtani found out that what was said was NOT the truth, the story changed TO THE TRUTH almost immediately and they realized that he'd been robbed. That's what made it seem like the story oddly changed almost immediately, because they caught the thief lying about the problem and realized that he stole the money and then issued a fabricated statement that made it seem like the money was actually given to him. Also, people say, Ohtani had to give him permission to wire the money, but as a business owner who receives wires all the time, I can tell you that many banks allow wires to be sent completely online and all you need is the bank log in and account # information, which a man who was "like a brother" to Ohtani certainly could've finagled access to. Finally Ohtani is vociferously anti-gambling. He refuses to go to casinos with teammates etc. There's almost no chance he is somehow gambling and blaming the interpreter.
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If Mizuhara had all of that info on Ohtani, then Ohtani's people had better examine his bank accounts for additional possible other transactions that Mizuhara helped himself to. They have known one another since 2013.
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Travis, thank you very much for the advice. Much appreciated! Sorry everyone for injecting my personal life into this thread.
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We all have fun with our kids driving us nuts sometimes. But this definitely gives us perspective to count our many blessings, because it could always be worse.
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Report now is that Ohtani will read a prepared statement sometime this afternoon and take no questions so seems unlikely there will be many answers to the questions that are still out there about what happened.
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Ohtani said he's not a gambler and the money sent to the bookie wasn't because of his betting, he said he doesn't gamble.
If he was tied to gambling but didn't bet on baseball and came clean about it, then things would just go away after a while. He has more to lose by lying than telling the truth (unless he bet on baseball). Things would come back 10x worse if he were caught in a lie. I believe him. Let the season begin!
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It already did in South Korea. We already have two teams (Dodgers and Padres) that can no longer win all 162 games this year.
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Not to be a cynic, but one of the reasons I believe Ohtani's version of events is that a guy who is making at least $50 million per year in endorsements and who has a $700 million contract in place (with probably expectations of something north of $500 million even a couple of years ago) isn't going to get into debt for $4.5 million with some dodgy bookie in California.
If he's a closet gambler, I'm sure he would have ways to get his fix from trusted sources in Japan, where he is more likely to have his privacy protected and respected. |
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Anyone see the video of Pete Rose saying he sure wish he'd have had an interpreter hahahaha!
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Pete Rose is always happy to make light of his actions and even lie about them. He’s a piece of shit of a human being. Ohtani is not.
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I lived in Japan 7 years. I learned to speak Japanese good enough to moonlight first as a bartender and later as a cab driver, and finally as a teacher of English to newly hired Japanese employees. I found learning Japanese to be fairly easy (it can be a difficult language), and it made it easy and fun to be a gaijin (foreigner). Maybe Ohtani could learn some English, the way Ichiro Suzuki did, with all of millions of dollars.
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"I am impressed you can speak of Ohtani with such certainty, when his public exposure has been so shielded"
I agree with this. How anybody can have a meaningful opinion about somebody they have never met, have never heard speak (excepting those who understand Japanese), and whose personal life is essentially unknown, seems odd. I have no reason to doubt Ohtani's version of events, but I would point out that we have two versions of events: One that existed before the lawyers got involved and one that emerged after the lawyers got involved. The first one implicated Ohtani in a crime that baseball might not be able to ignore. The second one didn't. It is also plausible that the cooperation of the interpreter in any scenario preferred by the lawyers could easily be purchased for a lot less than $700M. If this was an NBA player accused of an impropriety and a witness changed their story in a way that exonerated the player, would anybody doubt the witness had been "bought off"? |
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Can anyone explain yet how this relates at all to Pete Rose? Ohtani is not even accused, in anybody’s version of events, of betting on any baseball games whatsoever.
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Every time read $4.5 mil, my mind thinks what cards I’d have bought lol
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY3K6YOCuk4 kind of links Ohtani to his gambling behavior when he says "Back in the 70's and 80's, if I had an interpreter, I would be scot free." Mind you, this is Pete Rose's logic. Brian |
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Just an ex/retired player's opinion/thoughts on the matter. He's not buying Ohtani is innocent.
Ex-MLB all-star doubts Shohei Ohtani’s innocence in gambling scandal https://torontosun.com/sports/baseba...mbling-scandal
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If I'm in charge of the music at an Ohtani road game, every time he comes to the plate I'm playing this....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hx4gdlfamo |
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A few years ago while the Braves were playing the Blue Jays the Braves played "Beat It" while Reese McGuire was walking to the batters box.
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I am so sick of pussyfooting around with elitist BS.
If Ohtani wants to maintain good PR, do the following: LEARN HOW TO SPEAK ENGLISH WHILE COLLECTING HALF A BILLION DOLLARS! Fix the PR disaster with his first Dodger Stadium home run ball. 2 signed hats, a signed bat and a signed ball instead of the HR ball, and a threat from the Dodgers that they would refuse to authenticate the ball? Fuck the Dodgers! I hope Ohtani blows up in their fat faces.
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From what I read, it does sound like Dodgers security did not treat the people who had the home run ball fairly. However, I saw that someone from Heritage said the ball would be worth $100,000. I don't follow memorabilia prices. Does that seem reasonable to anyone who does? It seems like a lot more than I would have expected.
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I think it might sell for more right now just because Ohtani is in the news and him being on the Dodgers is a new thing. But the ball isn't a real milestone home run and I would highly doubt the valuation in an auction that didn't happen today.
I also think it's interesting that Ohtani has once again failed to tell the truth about even an innocuous circumstance like meeting a fan. Last edited by packs; 04-05-2024 at 09:08 AM. |
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The entire situation surrounding Ohtani this year has been a mess. At this point, I don't think we'd ever find out the truth about the betting scandal/interpreter scandal. A part of me wants to clear Ohtani of wrong doing, but the cynical other part of me, believes that Ippei was the fall guy. And the end of the day the MLB would not want to lose their Golden Goose, even if he bet on games.
Whoever handles his PR should be launched into the sun, they've done a terrible job. As a side note, I believe Ohtani does speak English, but is more comfortable speaking through an interpreter. There's nothing wrong with that, and while I do respect his privacy, Celebrities now aren't afforded the privacy they once were. Especially ones of his caliber. He's for all intents and purposes, the face of the MLB.
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