Nice Article in SMR on Photo Collection of Board Member

[drcy]

I have no special insight into this Conlon stamp issue, but I briefly looked at Scott's photo in question, amongst his stack of photos as he showed them to me numerous months ago, and it appeared to be vintage original from what I saw. Whether or not it's a Conlon image I have no opinion as that's not something I've looked into or considered.

[Forever Young]

Originally Posted by drcy

I have no special insight into this Conlon stamp issue, but I briefly looked at Scott's photo in question, amongst his stack of photos as he showed them to me numerous months ago, and it appeared to be vintage original from what I saw. Whether or not it's a Conlon image I have no opinion as that's not something I've looked into or considered.

David,

I think Rhys meant the link Phil provided. That said, I think several of us are in agreement that Scott's photo is or probably real. I cannot say as I have not seen it(excited to see the back if he removes). My guess would be real as I stated before based on Scott's opinion, size, look of it, comparable example ect..

This bad stamp has been applied to hundreds(at least/probably more) of photos.
I believe the "forger" probably separated photos thought would pass for a Conlon to the non-expert and went stamp crazy to make as much money as possible quickly.

In doing this, the "forger" most likely selected some that were original conlons that didn't have conlon markings, original images that were not conlons(conlon looking), and restrikes of both said.

I knew this was happening a log time ago and brought light of it on the board but there seemed to be a push back. Now it appears to be different. Below is the thread as well as more examples I believe are not original, type 1 Conlon photos with the bad stamp(some with forged conlon writing and sig). There are a ton more that can be viewed just by looking at past auctions. I quickly just picked a handful(some I know are fake and some I suspect by scanned evidence).

I do realize that it seems backward to first start with the stamp to some people(me too). But in this case, if you see a photo with this stamp(particularly if all you have to go by is an online stamp) at least question it first and try to prove it is good second.


Here is the thread from awhile back regarding Fake stamps, handwriting and Conlon sigs.



http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...+conlon+stamps



Other examples of bad stamps:


http://sports.mearsonlineauctions.co...-lot34587.aspx


http://sports.mearsonlineauctions.co...-LOT34603.aspx


http://sports.mearsonlineauctions.co...-LOT34557.aspx


http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Lot...entoryid=97880


http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Lot...entoryid=97883

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-SAM..._qi=RTM1562569

*I also have heard that Mears made good on bad Conlons returned(WELL DONE) and I think Legendary might have in the past as well(but not sure-just thought I heard that).

[Econteachert205]

As a new collector of photos, I was wondering what were the giveaways other than it not being a photo of the correct vintage? I checked real conlon stamps and the ones I saw didn't have the rectangle around the outside. Are there legit stamps with the rectangle that are the same color? Excuse my ignorance. Also are there any other photographers being forged? Thanks.

[drcy]

Dennis, a photo expert or seasoned collector doesn't look just at the stamp to determine the originality and age of a photo. Photos with no stamps or marks can be identified as Type Is due to their physical qualities. Many original photos have no stamps.

[Forever Young]

Originally Posted by drcy

Dennis, a photo expert or seasoned collector doesn't look just at the stamp to determine the originality and age of a photo. Photos with no stamps or marks can be identified as Type Is due to their physical qualities. Many original photos have no stamps.

DING DING DING... However... stamps are/can be one of the smoking guns.

PLEASE SEE THE THREAD BELOW REGARDING FAKE CONLON STAMPS GOING FORWARD. I want to post on here so everyone will be directed to it.
Thanks again for all the comments and questions.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=194436

[Lordstan]

Moved to other thread.