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Old 10-06-2013, 06:53 AM
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I managed to pick up two cool ones that match my collection well:

1) Louis Van Oeyen Type I of HB Dutch Leonard in 1916
This is a perfect compliment to my 1916 Dutch Leonard no-hit game ball that I own.

2) An iconic 1940 photo taken of Bob Feller showing his fastball prowess in a speed test involving a Cleveland motorcycle cop racing past him at 80 MPH.
Feller was successful at throwing his fastball through a paper target well ahead of the motorcycle in the speed test. Not too scientific, but it was the only way to effectively measure speed back in 1940. Radar was still 34 years from being effectively used to measure the speed of a baseball. Interestingly, Feller threw his "fireball" fastball while wearing dress slacks and heavy dress shoes...

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Old 10-06-2013, 08:10 AM
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I could not pass up this photo of my childhood favorite ballplayer, Al Kaline. The pose is similar to photo on his rookie card, and one he has used on several other occasions. Photo taken on same day as Tigers announced his signing was over the top for me.
My second win was of George Kell, who was Tigers radio and TV broadcaster for some 35 years, and teamed with Kaline as TV broadcaster for 21 years. So obtaining these two early career photos of these two HOFers was for me, a devout Tiger fan, terrific.

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Old 10-06-2013, 09:36 AM
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Picked up a bunch of inexpensive pieces, including this Van Oeyen.
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Old 10-06-2013, 09:38 AM
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Old 10-06-2013, 10:25 AM
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Old 10-06-2013, 10:36 AM
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I picked up this photo of six Federal League executives in 1914.
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Old 10-06-2013, 01:43 PM
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I managed to pick up two cool ones that match my collection well:

1) Louis Van Oeyen Type I of HB Dutch Leonard in 1916
This is a perfect compliment to my 1916 Dutch Leonard no-hit game ball that I own.

2) An iconic 1940 photo taken of Bob Feller showing his fastball prowess in a speed test involving a Cleveland motorcycle cop racing past him at 80 MPH.
Feller was successful at throwing his fastball through a paper target well ahead of the motorcycle in the speed test. Not too scientific, but it was the only way to effectively measure speed back in 1940. Radar was still 34 years from being invented. Interestingly, Feller threw his "fireball" fastball while wearing dress slacks and heavy dress shoes...
Scott:

I know it may be deceiving or a parallax view, but it looks like Feller hadn't even released the ball yet- with the motorcycle already 1/4 - 1/3 of the way there.

Also.... I thought there was indeed a famous image in which Feller is shown pitching into a crude radar device. I will try to dig it up, but am guessing you already know what I'm referencing.
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Old 10-06-2013, 01:47 PM
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This one...
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Check this out...

http://www.google.com/imgres?sa=X&bi...9,r:3,s:0,i:90

The Feller video starts at the :48 second mark. He did indeed give the motorcycle at least a 10 foot head start.

Also check out the crude (and obviously fake) Feller autograph on the Baseball at the very end. Looks just like a "Coach's Corner Special".

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Old 10-06-2013, 02:35 PM
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Wolterse - I love the Three Fingers picture, especially that you can read "Federal League" on the ball.

Ben - I was in on the Koufax for a while, if you ever decide to part with it.... Very nice pickups overall.

I forgot to add this DiMaggio rookie that i won as well:
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Old 10-06-2013, 04:32 PM
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Check this out...

http://www.google.com/imgres?sa=X&bi...9,r:3,s:0,i:90

The Feller video starts at the :48 second mark. He did indeed give the motorcycle at least a 10 foot head start.

Also check out the crude (and obviously fake) Feller autograph on the Baseball at the very end. Looks just like a "Coach's Corner Special".
Awesome! Thanks for the link, Mark. You can also see Feller destroy the Sky Screen Chronograph contraption with his 6th pitch on YouTube. Very cool!
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The "Three-Finger" Brown picture is incredible...somehow I missed that one in this incredible auction.

These are my first photo purchases, and also my first post on this side of the board. Incredible photos all!

Here are my wins, all Cubs-focused, so, in other words, the photos all have a context of failure within them, and I love it. Not too much to find on the contrary...
Anyone got any Cubs photos with 1907-1908 WS in mind?



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Old 10-06-2013, 04:22 PM
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Mark,

I own a different photo and ticket of this same speed test that occurred on 8/20/46 at Washington Senators depicted here.

The slug on my photo says that:
"The Army Ordinance Dept. brought it's Sky Screen Chronograph to Griffith Stadium in Washington August 20 (1946)to clock the speed of Bob Feller's fireball. The Chronograph, consisting of three boxes-- two containing photo electric cells, and the third, high speed computing mechanisms-- developed by the Army Ordinance Dept. to time the velocity of shells in the battlefield, and can do it accurately to 1/100,000th of a second"
Feller's fastball speed was confirmed to be 98.6 MPH.

Although radar was first invented in the mid-to-late 1930's it was crude.
It wasn't until many years later that it was refined enough to be used to effectively measure the speed of a fastball.

Ironically, on August 20th, 1974 (the 20th anniversary of Feller's speed test in Washington DC), aerospace company Rockwell International in Anaheim, CA used their refined version of the radar technology to effectively measure the speed of Nolan Ryan's fastball at Anaheim Stadium. Ryan's speed was clocked at 100.9 MPH which is still listed as the fastest pitch ever recorded in The Guinness Book of Sports Records. It's important to note that the way that Nolan was recorded uses a different standard of measurement than today's radar guns. Nolan was measured as his fastball passed through a beam at home plate.

It's my understanding that today's radar measurement is recorded 10 ft. after a pitch leaves a pitchers hand. FWIW, by today's measurement standard Nolan's heater on Aug. 20, 1974 would be 110.9 MPH and Feller would be about 108.9 MPH from his 1946 measurement...

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Scott:

I know it may be deceiving or a parallax view, but it looks like Feller hadn't even released the ball yet- with the motorcycle already 1/4 - 1/3 of the way there.

Also.... I thought there was indeed a famous image in which Feller is shown pitching into a crude radar device. I will try to dig it up, but am guessing you already know what I'm referencing.
Mark,
I believe that the photo depicts reality. The motorcycle was traveling at 86 MPH, but Rapid Robert was later shown to throw his fastball over 98 MPH. The motorcycle could have a head start, but still lose the race, FWIW...

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Old 10-06-2013, 05:12 PM
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I believe that this Newark Eagles photo of Larry Doby was the only true Negro League photo in the auction as the Satchel Paige item was from the Winter League season.
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Great Stan Musial batting pose from a youthful Stan 1 of my favorite players.
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Great pickups guys. I got shutout. I went to bed winning 1 auction, but it wasn't to be.
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Old 10-10-2013, 06:39 AM
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GREAT shot, Phil. And taken in St. Louis, no less!

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Great pickups guys. I got shutout. I went to bed winning 1 auction, but it wasn't to be.
Ryan, I suffered the same fate
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I'm curious. If these cool photos were on ebay, rather than a Henry Yee or Mr. Yeakley auction, would they go super high? I don't know the final bids on these, but seems people do get caught in "auction fever" . Are there ever any deals with Henry? I mean, no disrespect, Im just curious. Henry, Ive known for many years and Rhetty seems like a cool guy.
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I'm curious. If these cool photos were on ebay, rather than a Henry Yee or Mr. Yeakley auction, would they go super high? I don't know the final bids on these, but seems people do get caught in "auction fever" . Are there ever any deals with Henry? I mean, no disrespect, Im just curious. Henry, Ive known for many years and Rhetty seems like a cool guy.
Scott,
I think, like with every auction, the final price comes down to a few common things. Advertising/credibility/visibility of the seller, quality of the items, and luck.
Henry Yee, Rhys, REA, Legendary, Heritage, etc all have long lists of customers, as well as a certain amount of public awareness, so many more "motivated" buyers are following their auctions. More exposure = more interested parties following the auction = more likely hood of bidding fever.

These same auctioneers are known for outstanding quality. I think Henry's reputation is especially strong in regards to having, not only top quality images, simply impeccable condition of the pictures he sells.

Ebay is a mixed bag. Sellers that are unknown. Item quality that is all over the place. Uncertainty as whether or not the seller has described the "type" correctly.
For me, the price I would've bid/paid for each of the pictures I won would not have been different. The difference, between a name auction and eBay, is that I think the final price I wound up having to pay might have been less on eBay.
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