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Toad update
Thanks for posting the SGC 60 & 70 Ramsey photos, guys.
So here are all the N172 Toad Ramsey cards I have seen photos of so far. If anyone can share more examples, please post the photos. There are two other SGC-graded Toads (poses unknown) that I haven't seen, one graded 'Authentic' and another 'SGC 20'. There are also two PSA Toads graded 'Authenic', both of the 379-1 variety. It's possible some of the photos of the cards currently featured in this post were subsequently graded, aside from the Burdick museum Toads of course. Updated with 1888 "Trimmed Toad" pitching pose. Thanks, Joe G. & John D. Also, it was recommended that I separate the 1888 and 1889 Toads so they aren't all jumbled together, so I did. Last edited by baztacula; 01-10-2016 at 10:22 AM. Reason: updated with new image |
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So I stumbled upon images of 2 more pitching Toads (379-3) from old auctions. I added them in the above post. I am waiting on the image of yet another trimmed example of that card, which would bring the current pitching pose Toad total to nine. I'm finding more than I though I would.
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Anyone have any OJ Chicago Maroons to trade or sell ?
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I have three in a BST ad
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Yeah, the Toads we can find should shed a little more light on populations for Old Judge cards. Ramsey in general is considered rare but I'm up to 9 pitching poses (I just updated my post on the previous page of this thread with image #9), which is pretty rare but that bat vertical Toad pose appears to be the ultimate in rarity, as the Old Judge book features the only image I've ever seen.
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Dave, good start on collecting Ramsey images. All three poses were issued in both 1888 (Fb) and 1889 (Fc). Fc is typically more common than Fb but you are showing a nearly equal split . . .
Pose 1 - 1 Fb (last card) and 3 Fc Pose 2 - Fc Pose 3 - 5 Fb and 4 Fc Total of 6 Fb, 8 Fc I suspect your 1:9 ratio between pose 2 & 3 is a bit skewed. The Cartolphilic listing for pose 2 shows one Fb and two different Fc variations (Louisville and Louisvilles). I suspect none of those variations are unique, there are more cards out there. I'd say Ramsey is among the easier Louisville players.
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"Someday I'll get better individual scans". said John, knowing full well he will probably just take a group shot with the three new cards added in and never fulfill that promise.
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Considering that I happen to have 42 Corcoran cards, and coupled with John's 41, I should think an estimate of over 100 for the most common is quite reasonable.
Brian Last edited by brianp-beme; 01-11-2016 at 04:21 PM. Reason: You would think I would know the spelling if I had 42 of the fellow |
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I knew there had to be another connoisseur of fine Corcorans around
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Okay . . . from the above posts of the N172 player collections it's pretty evident that some of the poses of a given player are extremely difficult whereas others are relatively pedestrian. (That's my experience with the Denvers guys too).
As a (primarily but not exclusively) T206 guy, I think the N172 focus needs to shift away from player scarcity, and toward pose scarcity. It's like the difference between a Green Cobb and a Red Cobb, only far more pronounced! Last edited by sreader3; 01-11-2016 at 07:58 PM. |
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And then a steamroller ran over them just before falling off a cliff into the ocean
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