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For Negro League aficionados & experts: I would like to hear your opinions
First, what do you think is the likelihood that additional Negro Leaguers will be elected to the Hall of Fame?
Second, if there is a future special election of Negro Leaguers to the HOF, please name your top-5 that you believe should be inducted (and "Why?" if you care to add your reasoning/opinion). Thanks! |
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I think the next early baseball vote is in 2020. Here is who I would like to see inducted:
Francisco Coimbre - Satchel Paige himself said of all the hitters he ever faced, Coimbre was hands down the toughest. Here is his exact quote: “Coimbre could not be pitched to. No one gave me more trouble than anyone I ever faced, including Josh Gibson and Ted Williams.” Perucho Cepeda - legendary father of Orlando Cepeda and was called the Babe Ruth of Puerto Rico while he was a player. Hit 400 at two different positions. Cepeda refused to play in the Negro Leagues because he was disgusted by American racism and the need for there to be two leagues. |
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My next guys in line:
Dick Lundy Oliver Marcelle Home Run Johnson Alejandro Oms Dobie Moore--long shot, too short of career You can also throw in John Donaldson Buck O'Neil--Contributions to baseball and being the "voice" of the Negro Leagues, not for his playing days |
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Alejandro Oms. He could flat out rake.
Tom C |
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Off the top of my head my picks would be:
John Beckwith Home Run Johnson Oliver Marcelle Dick Lundy John Donaldson. I would also be OK with Alejandro Oms, Dick Redding, Chet Brewer, Eustaquio Pedroso and Nip Winters. Additionally, the election of Buck O'Neil as a contributor is waaaaaaay overdue. |
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I'd appreciate it if the Hall of Fame looked beyond the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum to get their material. Therefore I'll offer three black baseball players, some of whom played in the Negro Leagues briefly, but they spent the majority of their careers in semi-pro baseball on integrated and segregated teams along the West Coast:
Carlisle Perry; High School teammate of the Meusel brothers in LA, California Winter League regular, Negro Leagues (1923-25), manager of the Los Angeles White Sox 1919-29, owner of the LA White Sox of the short-lived West Coast Negro League (1946). Ernie Tanner; Proclaimed to be "the greatest athlete ever produced in Washington State" Tanner was a four star athlete, but was most known for his early integration of Tacoma baseball, and his work as a longshoreman representative. The Ernest Tanner Cultural Studies Building on the UW branch campus in Tacoma is the former longshoreman's labor hall. His son, Jack Tanner, was also the first African American federal judge West of the Mississippi. Never played in the Negro Leagues though played for the Chicago American Giants when they visited Tacoma. Jimmy Claxton; Claxton was among the first African Americans depicted on an American baseball card. The first to integrate semi-pro and minor league teams in Washington, Oregon, California, and Nevada prior to World War 2. He managed white semi-pro teams in Washington and Nevada (1926-1938). His stats were impressive: 138 wins, 77 losses, .350 lifetime batting average, 23 strikeouts in a single game (twice), one no-hitter in an integrated semi-pro game (June 23, 1924, he was the only black man on the field). One brief barnstorm through the Negro Leagues 1932 after a significant arm injury the previous season. Honorable mention, Isaac "Ike" Ward; A former member of the 25th infantry buffalo soldiers, Ward was perhaps the first African American to manage a white semi-pro team in the history of our national pastime when he managed the Colville Indians (1913-15). A couple other worthy candidates not from the West; John Donaldson, and Subby Byas (Byas once received more votes for the All-Star game than Josh Gibson at the same position). Last edited by pariah1107; 01-23-2017 at 01:24 PM. |
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Hard to stick to just five in my opinion, and I am sure that I am missing some... I think pretty much all of the following were better than Andy Cooper
Home Run Johnson Oliver Marcelle Alejandro Oms Dick Lundy John Donaldson Minnie Minoso (a little like Monte Irvin - MLB stats miss his first few years of stats as they were in Cuba/NL) Longer shots (but, personally favorites of mine): Clint Thomas Dobie Moore Nip Winters Frank Duncan Spotwood Poles George Scales Wild Bill Wright (especially Mexican career) Dick Redding Bruce Petway Tetelo Vargas Duncan and Petway will likely suffer from "too many catchers", though I do believe that is was the strongest position for negro league players. As others have said, Buck O'Neil is a no brainier for contributions and it is a shame that it will happen posthumously. I think that Ed Bolden will get in as an executive. Regardless, it is hard to imagine that other entries of the Hall of Fame would NOT come from the list of players already considered. You can see the full list and see helpful links to the players here: http://www.baseball-reference.com/bu...agues_Election you may also find these sources helpful: http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/200...league-players http://seamheads.com/blog/2013/08/29...-hall-of-fame/ http://johndonaldson.bravehost.com/pdf/00237.pdf http://mlb.mlb.com/news/print.jsp?ym...=mlb&fext=.jsp And of course, I started to post some videos on YouTube that document some of these players on Cuban cards. Fascinated topic (to me at least)! Here is a link to a new project that I am doing that include cards of some of the players mentioned here and on the links: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBi...xNtlijS0aGCpEw
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