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Old 07-15-2017, 09:11 AM
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Default Bccg vs raw

So let's say I have 10,000+ 50's/60's/70's stars rookies high #'s, etc in mid grade {vg-ex/mt} {psa 3-6} Bccg will grade them for $2/per with 10k + order size. do you think I am better off getting bccg grade or sell raw. I am not talking about stuff that I would obviously send to PSA {like mantle, mays, clemente, aaron, etc} One upside to Bccg is obviously it would eliminate any question about authenticity and altered.
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I disregard BCCG grades...they are meaningless to me.

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Old 07-15-2017, 10:08 AM
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Buy the card. Anything else is uncivilized.
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If your major goal is preservation then it has some value.

If your goal is to sell then I'd keep them raw. BCCG is not taken seriously in the marketplace.

One advantage of raw is their mystery. People will buy them hoping to get that EX or EX-MT grade. When they buy a BCCG 6 or 7 they already know the bad news.
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I don't believe BCCG grading eliminates any question of authenticity or the card being altered. I tend to by pass anything graded by them.
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BCCG is a joke.
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I don't believe BCCG grading eliminates any question of authenticity or the card being altered. I tend to by pass anything graded by them.
I agree. Do not waste your money on bccg grading. Especially if you plan to sell the cards.
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If your major goal is preservation then it has some value.

If your goal is to sell then I'd keep them raw. BCCG is not taken seriously in the marketplace.

One advantage of raw is their mystery. People will buy them hoping to get that EX or EX-MT grade. When they buy a BCCG 6 or 7 they already know the bad news.
I think you could preserve your cards adequately for WAY less than $20,000

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I'll put them in toploaders and penny sleeves and weed out any fakes for 10,000. I'll even cover the supplies.

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When I said BCCG fpr preservation I meant the just the valuable ones. Nobody's gonna put 10k cards in BCCG.

What I would do for myself would be penny sleeves in top-loader for anything worth $50 or more and the rest in cardsavers.

For sale I'd PSA the good ones and sell the rest raw.
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I was thinking for resale value; I guess BCCG is a bad idea.
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So let's say I have 10,000+ 50's/60's/70's stars rookies high #'s, etc in mid grade {vg-ex/mt} {psa 3-6} Bccg will grade them for $2/per with 10k + order size. do you think I am better off getting bccg grade or sell raw. I am not talking about stuff that I would obviously send to PSA {like mantle, mays, clemente, aaron, etc} One upside to Bccg is obviously it would eliminate any question about authenticity and altered.
It would? NOT.
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BCCG is good for buyers (if they know what to look for) not sellers.
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BCCG is good for buyers (if they know what to look for) not sellers.
I disagree. I have seen many sellers who claim it was "graded a "6" or "7" or higher and mention nothing about how BCCG grades.

I said it back a while ago, that sellers will love this as there are still many novice collectors out there and new collectors coming to the hobby everyday.

"Those two Beckett services are BVG and BGS only. A third Beckett service, BCCG, attempts to capitalize on the well-known numerical grading scale collectors are familiar with (1 through 10) as a way to make it appear to novice collectors that the card is in nicer condition than it actually is."

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I disagree. I have seen many sellers who claim it was "graded a "6" or "7" or higher and mention nothing about how BCCG grades.

I said it back a while ago, that sellers will love this as there are still many novice collectors out there and new collectors coming to the hobby everyday.

"Those two Beckett services are BVG and BGS only. A third Beckett service, BCCG, attempts to capitalize on the well-known numerical grading scale collectors are familiar with (1 through 10) as a way to make it appear to novice collectors that the card is in nicer condition than it actually is."
Exactly. And as a buyer with knowledge you can easily win the argument. Of course if you leave out the knowledge part of my answer yours is correct. Nothing like taking something out of context.
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Exactly. And as a buyer with knowledge you can easily win the argument. Of course if you leave out the knowledge part of my answer yours is correct. Nothing like taking something out of context.
Although I didn't acknowledge your (If they know what to look for) I still found that confusing, as most, that I have seen anyways, are overpriced to begin with based on the BCCG grade.

I suppose some are out there, (I try not to even give these BCCG graded cards a second look), that are priced fair or on the cheap side, from honest sellers, but from what I have noticed, the sellers are trying to pass off a BCCG graded 8,9, or 10 as if that would be the same grade PSA or SGC would also grade the card at.

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I disagree. I have seen many sellers who claim it was "graded a "6" or "7" or higher and mention nothing about how BCCG grades.

I said it back a while ago, that sellers will love this as there are still many novice collectors out there and new collectors coming to the hobby everyday.

"Those two Beckett services are BVG and BGS only. A third Beckett service, BCCG, attempts to capitalize on the well-known numerical grading scale collectors are familiar with (1 through 10) as a way to make it appear to novice collectors that the card is in nicer condition than it actually is."
Well said Irv. Here is some comments straight off the Beckett boards:

http://www.beckett.com/forums/thread-1483902.html

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