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Old 07-24-2019, 11:24 AM
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I don't think there are NDAs but as I posted there is IMO no chance that whatever amount Brent and a few other card doctors pay back will even scratch the surface of the amount of their ill gotten gains, or the harm inflicted on the hobby.

Is it better than no restitution? Yes, of course. Is it an adequate punishment for the crime? That to me is the real question. We'll see what happens.
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Old 07-24-2019, 11:35 AM
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I don't think there are NDAs but as I posted there is IMO no chance that whatever amount Brent and a few other card doctors pay back will even scratch the surface of the amount of their ill gotten gains, or the harm inflicted on the hobby.

Is it better than no restitution? Yes, of course. Is it an adequate punishment for the crime? That to me is the real question. We'll see what happens.
No restitution IMO was never a realistic scenario. One of PSA, PWCC, Ebay or the buyers credit card companies would have paid up. UFFDAH recieved restitution on the Maris very early on.

So I don’t consider buyers getting resitution for cards identified to be a win, thats the baseline.
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Old 07-24-2019, 05:42 PM
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I don't think there are NDAs but as I posted there is IMO no chance that whatever amount Brent and a few other card doctors pay back will even scratch the surface of the amount of their ill gotten gains, or the harm inflicted on the hobby.

Is it better than no restitution? Yes, of course. Is it an adequate punishment for the crime? That to me is the real question. We'll see what happens.
I just want the cheater effer to come out and say HE targeted the cards that were to be trimmed and altered, HE ran a shill bidding operation, he cheated e-bay, HE didn't pay his taxes on ill gotten gains. HE put stupid stickers on cards he knew were his and trimmed. HE was Eddie Embelisher in his descriptions. HE was the Maestro. How fitting his name is Brent Mastro, pun intended.
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Old 07-24-2019, 05:47 PM
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I just want the cheater effer to come out and say HE targeted the cards that were to be trimmed and altered, HE ran a shill bidding operation, he cheated e-bay, HE didn't pay his taxes on ill gotten gains. HE put stupid stickers on cards he knew were his and trimmed. HE was Eddie Embelisher in his descriptions. HE was the Maestro. How fitting his name is Brent Mastro, pun intended.
Knowing Brent and Betsy Huigens, sincere good luck with that....
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Old 07-24-2019, 05:50 PM
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I just want the cheater effer to come out and say HE targeted the cards that were to be trimmed and altered, HE ran a shill bidding operation, he cheated e-bay, HE didn't pay his taxes on ill gotten gains. HE put stupid stickers on cards he knew were his and trimmed. HE was Eddie Embelisher in his descriptions. HE was the Maestro. How fitting his name is Brent Mastro, pun intended.
Don't leave out chemical cleaning as long as you're making a list.
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Don't leave out chemical cleaning as long as you're making a list.
How could I forget, the chemicals.

Especially as a hazardous waste specialist. I hope they are getting rid of their flammable liquids on a hazardous waste manifest. Those illegal dumping charges are tough to beat.

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How could I forget, the chemicals.

Especially as a hazardous waste specialist. I hope the are getting rid of their flammable liquids on a hazardous waste manifest. Those illegal dumping charges are tough to beat.
The cards themselves are probably hazardous.
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The cards themselves are probably hazardous.
Cards will one day disintegrate in slab.....one will wonder .......its the Chemical Wizard
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