Eddie Plank Cracker Jack

[Vintagecards1914]

I was hoping one of the Cracker Jack experts on this blog could give me some insight on why the 1915 Eddie Planks Beckett for more than the 1914 version? It seems to me that their have to be more 1915s out there than the 14 counter part. I was also wondering if the Beckett values mirrored how the card actually sells. Thanks for your time

[pokerplyr80]

This got me curious so I took a look at the VCP data. Recent sales show a 14 SGC 30 selling for $1,100 and a 15 SGC 40 selling for $900.

My take would be that the beckett guide is off, and people do value the 14 higher as one would expect. Although I am by no means a CJ expert.

[Vintagecards1914]

The 15 sgc 40 for 900 is probably the one I just bought.. The newest Beckett price guide has the low grade Planks priced higher in the 15s, just seems strange to me, maybe it's just because most of the 14 s are low grade examples, so their are just more out there.

[Steve D]

That's one of the conundrums I've been fighting. I'm looking for some low-grade Cracker Jack HOFers, and in my experience, the 1915s are near-impossible to find in low grade, since they were available via mail-in request. Conversely, the 1914s are next to impossible to find in high grade since they were only available in the product boxes, making even low-grade examples expensive. So:

1914s - expensive due to rarity of high-grade examples
1915s - near impossible to find in low grade, since they were well cared for (similar situation to 1933 Goudey Lajoie)

Steve

[Peter_Spaeth]

15s were also available with product.

[Vintagecards1914]

Thanks for the feed back, it makes sense that their would be more low grade 14rs and more high grade 15rs. I guess the market is so small that it's just a card by card on how much somebody will pay, I love my sgc 40 1915 plank, and since I'm not selling any time soon the value is no big deal to me..

[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by Steve D

the 1915s are near-impossible to find in low grade, since they were available via mail-in request.

I can relate to what you are saying. I have been wanting a low-grade 1915 Matty that presents decent for a while now. There hasn't been much in between absolute beaters and higher grade examples that are way out of my price range.

[Vintagecards1914]

I've been looking for a low grade Grover Cleveland Alexander from either 14 or 15, but the ones that look half way decent are going for a fortune. I was hoping some 1.5-3's would show up from 1915 thinking they will be a bit cheaper, but I haven't gotten lucky yet

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

It goes against econ 101 but sometimes more demand can increase prices even when supply is greater than other products. It's possible more collectors are buying 15 Planks currently or there's just such a small supply of 14's there's been no recent sales data for Beckett to gauge accurate values.

btw I recently bought this 14 Plank as a SGC "authentic" thinking it was trimmed. But PSA re-graded as a 1, I think due to the cut or tear at bottom right.

[Vintagecards1914]

Nice card!!! I'm really happy with the quality of the 15 I got, it actually looks better than I expected after checking out the pictures on the listing.. That is a sharp looking psa 1, nice work

[Vintagecards1914]

Nice looking PSA 1!! I'm really happy with the 1915 Plank I received , it has great eye appeal for a sgc 40. I was looking for a 1914 but I couldn't pass on the chance to own a 40, not sure if I'd get that chance again in the near future

[Steve D]

I just looked at the PSA population report for both Cracker Jack sets, and here's what I found:

1915 - 11,346 cards graded.
-- 2,620 are graded 8, 8.5,9 or 10 (non-qual) (23% of pop)
-- 2,756 are graded 1, 1.5, 2, 2.5 or 3 (incl "qualifiers" PD, OC...) (24% of pop)

1914 - 3,711 cards graded.
-- 84 are graded 8, 8.5,9 or 10 (non-qual) (2% of pop)
-- 1,942 are graded 1, 1.5, 2, 2.5 or 3 (incl "qualifiers" PD, OC...) (52% of pop)

Steve

[Peter_Spaeth]

I would be wary of that 23 percent.

[Vol]

14 or 15, such a cool card of Plank.

Did not know that the 15's were in the "product" as Peter said.

[rainier2004]

1914s only came in product while the 1915s came both in product and thru the mail.

Beckett is off, usually is and should not be used as reference.

1914s are higher in cost and more rare and also part of a "master set" while th1 1915s do come in all grades including low grade...patience is a virtue.

[Edwolf1963]

Originally Posted by rainier2004

Beckett is off, usually is and should not be used as reference.

+1

[obcmac]

Originally Posted by rainier2004

Beckett is off, usually is and should not be used as reference.

x100

Beckett knows nothing about CJ pricing...it's scary how off they are. Better to ignore it all together.

[jbsports33]

Cracker Jack prices are always all over the place, so better to look at least three sources before buying

Nice cards!

[Vintagecards1914]

Lots of really good information guys, thanks.. It's really hard to for a new collector like me to be patient and wait for the exact card I'm looking for. I was hoping to find a 1914 Plank, but getting a SGC 40 of a 1915 was to much for me to pass up.. I can always upgrade to a nice 1914 version when the time comes. I'm kind of in the same situation with the Grover Cleveland Alexander, I really want to find a low grade 1914, but if a good looking 15 pops up I might have to jump on it.. I guess I need to figure out what my collecting goals are going to be.. For now it's acquire as many hall of famers as I can from either year, I guess I just like the rarity of the 14s, but I appreciate the eye appeal and supply of the 15s..

[yanksfan09]

Originally Posted by rainier2004

1914s only came in product while the 1915s came both in product and thru the mail.

Beckett is off, usually is and should not be used as reference.

1914s are higher in cost and more rare and also part of a "master set" while th1 1915s do come in all grades including low grade...patience is a virtue.

Agreed. The only valid pricing info is past sales (what the cards actually sell for), and even then things change on how hot a set is at the time and how many people pursuing a card at a given time. SMR's and price guides aren't worth anything to me other than references for checklists and ID'ing issues maybe.

[Vintagecards1914]

Yeah, the Beckett prices seem pretty comical.. The PSA price guide online is even worse haha. It's been hard for me to know what's a good price and what is a bit high, guess that's part of the learning curve.