T206 carolina brights or brown hindu, which is tougher?

[CMIZ5290]

I know that the lists of rare backs on t206s has been talked about many times on this forum, and several list carolina brights as being scarcer and more valuable than brown hindus. Based on recent comparable sales, i am actually leaning towards brown hindu. Would love to hear thoughts and opinions ....thanks

[rp12367]

I think CB is tougher. Althought brown Hindu prices have been heating up. I still think CB's are far and few, compaired to Hindu's.

[atx840]

In a three month search to putting together a brand run I found five CBs on the bay, two on the BST and two at the big auction sites. On any given day there were 5-10 Br Hindus available.

[Vegas-guy]

I pulled this from a different thread. But as for sales or $$$ I'm not sure which is more?

T206 Rare Backs List

1 - Ty Cobb
2 - Old Mill (Southern Leagues) - Brown*
3 - Lenox - Brown
4 - Broad Leaf 460
5 - Drum 350
6 - Uzit
7 - Hindu - Red
8 - Lenox - Black
***Red Cross Type 1***
9 - Broad Leaf 350
10 - Blank Back*
***Coupon Type 1***
11 - Carolina Brights
12 - Piedmont 350-460 Factory No.42
13 - American Beauty 460
14 - Hindu - Brown
15 - American Beauty 350 (No Frame)
16 - Sovereign 460
17 - Cycle 460
18 - Tolstoi
19 - Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory No.25
20 - El Principe De Gales
21 - American Beauty 350 (Frame)
22 - Sovereign 350 (Apple Green)
23 - Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory No.42
24 - Cycle 350
25 - Old Mill (Southern Leagues) - Black
26 - Sovereign 150
27 - Sweet Caporal 150 Factory No.649 Overprint
28 - Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory No.42 Overprint
29 - Old Mill (Base Ball Subjects)
30 - Polar Bear
31 - Sovereign 350 (Forest Green)
32 - Sweet Caporal 150 Factory No.25
33 - Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory No.30
34 - Sweet Caporal 150 Factory No.30
35 - Piedmont 150 Factory No.25
36 - Piedmont 350-460 Factory No.25
37 - Sweet Caporal 350 Factory No.25
38 - Sweet Caporal 350 Factory No.30
39 - Piedmont 350 Factory No.25

[CMIZ5290]

No way in the world i would believe american beauty 460 backs are more valuable than brown hindu

[Jaybird]

Scarcity and value are two different things as has been discussed before in other threads. Plenty of cards are more scarce than the T206 Wagner, but few are as valuable.

[Mikehealer]

Nearly twice as many players available with brown Hindu than AB 460, so a good chance there are more Hindus out there.

[CMIZ5290]

I think jason makes a great point. I know that a recent sgc 60 hughie jennings with an ab460 back just sold on net54 for less than $500! 3 recent psa 3 hall of famers with brown hindu backs in auction houses have sold for $2500 and up.

[Gradedcardman]

I have been following both for the last 12 months and have found the Carolina Brights to be quite a bit tougher to find. Either via eBay or from the major auction houses. I still love them both and am always looking for VG or better if anyone finds some

[FrankWakefield]

If you're sorting through bunches of old white border tobacco cards, you're likely to find more brown Hindu cards than Carolina Brights. Before folks were all excited about different backs, Hindu's were encountered occasionally, and Carolina Brights seldom.

[t206blogcom]

I've found Carolina Brights to be much more difficult to find than Hindu.

[Blitzu]

I've been in the T206 hunt for backs for over 5 years and have been a serious collector of cards for over 20 years. CB's are by far more scare than brown hindus. Brown hindus have been fairly readily accessible at any given time where as the CB's come and go once every few months from my standpoint.

Take the CB if you ever see one.

Also, to add to the discussion on AB 460's... good luck finding them. I have seen those less than I have seen CB's.

[judsonhamlin]

I think that I would rank the CB's up there with Broadleafs as being more difficult than Hindu

[mrvster]

I was just talking about this today ironically.....cb way tuffer than hindu...close to broadleaf in scarcity.....

[ethicsprof]

obviously anecdotal at best, but I have 1 C B and 10 brown hindus.
cb's have been much tougher.

best,
barry

[danmckee]

CB is much tougher than brown Hindu. Red Hindu is tougher than CB.

[CMIZ5290]

Dan- i agree population wise, but not price wise. If you look at psa pop reports, brown hindus outnumber cb's 3 to 1. This was the reason for my thread, i just did not understand why prices did not reflect that. It just seems that cb's should be considerably higher but they are not.

[Ronnie73]

Kevin, Glad I made your day. Here is some other interesting Tolstoi info. On ebay in 2011, only 3 Tolstoi's were offered in a 80/6 grade with none higher. They were Neal Ball PSA 6 $600, Josh Devore SGC 80 $450, and Clark Griffith Batting PSA 6 $760. So, Tolstoi high grades are really hard to find but seem to be fairly priced for how rare they are.

[CMIZ5290]

Who ever got the clark griffith psa 6, please call me!

[Blitzu]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Dan- i agree population wise, but not price wise. If you look at psa pop reports, brown hindus outnumber cb's 3 to 1. This was the reason for my thread, i just did not understand why prices did not reflect that. It just seems that cb's should be considerably higher but they are not.

As the number of serious collectors rise, and the knowledge base increases, the respect and value for these truly rare backs will increase significantly. CB's will surpass the value of brown Hindus over time.