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Old 01-12-2006, 05:00 PM
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Posted By: Patrick McMenemy

I thought it might be interesting to see color variations in the T206 set.

I have a couple of cards that show some variation in color.

I have seen the Kling T206s range from the more common bright red to bright orange. I happen to have a red and one what I call a peach color.



I also have a couple of Chief Meyers (Portrait) T206s that show the more common burgandy and one that is more of a brown color.



Anyone else care to share their T206 color variations?

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Old 01-12-2006, 08:10 PM
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Posted By: tfever

My Meyers looks diff than yours. Mine looks like in black and white only.

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Old 01-12-2006, 08:18 PM
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Posted By: vintagecatcher

That's a great card. Let me know if you ever decide to sell it. It would look great in my Meyers' collection.

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Old 01-12-2006, 08:44 PM
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My three "red" Cobbs
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Old 01-12-2006, 08:51 PM
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Posted By: Trevor Hocking

Here's the one I have kinda cool

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Old 01-12-2006, 09:30 PM
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Posted By: fkw

Wow, another REAL orange Cobb, cool card, I have an image of another (below)







I own the Kelley, but not the orange Cobb (I wish)

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Posted By: Art M.

One of a few odd color Southern Leaguers:

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Old 01-13-2006, 07:37 AM
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Posted By: joe brennan

It is really neat to see all the different colors on these cards. I would suppose that the printers let the runs go until they were almost out of color. Then they stopped the process, mixed true color into the batches and started again, leaving tons of variations. At the time they were printed, they never woulda thought that their work would be so highly scrutinized 100 years later. Reminds me of the depression glass era. Depression glass was made in several different colors. When a new color was wanted the color was almost emptied but not quite, then the new color was added. There are hundreds of variations because the first batches were mixed with the last of a different color. The glass was given away in laundry soap boxes and other forms. Like the cards, who knew they were going to be such sought after item 70 years later and their work judged so closely. Is this a fair thought on how all these color variations happened or are some of them scraps that were never meant to be put into circulation?

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Old 01-13-2006, 08:10 AM
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Posted By: Ed McCollum

Using a split fountain printing technique, like on the posters for different bands. Load a one color press with multiple colors along the print roller and start printing. The colors blend and move as they get squeezed together over the course of the run. When you have a brown muck, you stop the press, clean the roller, load the ink and start over again. Made for some great psychedelic posters for rock groups. And cheap too.

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Old 01-13-2006, 08:46 AM
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Posted By: JimB

fwk,
Mine seems to be missing some color under Cobb's right eye on the cheek that yours is not missing. I assumed it was due to a a lack of red, but now I am not sure.
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P.S. Nice card!

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Old 01-14-2006, 10:08 AM
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Old 01-14-2006, 12:12 PM
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Posted By: JimB

Art,
Wow, those Donovan's are cool. That is the first time I have seen 3 color variations on the same T206. Somebody posted a similar 3 color variation of Leaf Dimaggios a few months ago. I think they came from the Nagy collection, but were not in the auction.
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Posted By: Lee Behrens

Art,

Cool variations, I do have some orange variations but I like these, I kick my self for not buying a Willis that was in between the 2 colors shown, here my contribution:



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Old 01-16-2006, 01:09 AM
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Posted By: Jason

These colors are not variations. They are simply fades or shades of the intended colors used. I cannot believe people overpay for this kind of scrap. They should be viewed as misprint, miscut, oput of focus, etc.

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Old 01-16-2006, 10:05 AM
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Posted By: Lee Behrens

Who says we paid a premium for these cards? I have probably 6 cards with the wrong color and never once paid extra for it. Normally the common color variation such as orange for a red do not command a premium. You will also find bigger premium paid for the variety of factory mishaps "printers scrap" than for these color variations. To each there own.

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Posted By: JimB

Most of these are not fades, but printing mistakes where a layer of color was mistakenly not added. My guess is that if one asked the artist on the T206 orange Cobb (or any of these others) what s/he thought of it, s/he would say it was a printing mistake.
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Posted By: barrysloate

All of the images posted were interesting, but the most unusual by far was Art's Donovan with blue background. Yellows and greens often interchange but that blue one seems extremely rare. Is that in fact the case?

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Posted By: fkw

What I think on the Donovan is the normal card is Green. Green is made from blue and yellow. The yellow card on the left is missing the blue, and the blue card on the right is missing the yellow. The cool thing is all 3 look like they were intended to be that color.

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

All the way back to 19th Century Lithography printing,
a 4 - color process is employed to create all the various
colors. The inks used in this process are Yellow, Magenta,
Cyan (blue), and Black. So, each card (or sheets of cards)
go thru 4 inking passes in order to produce the completed
cards.

So, all these cards are simply printing errors and not true
"variations". However, they are really neat; especially the
two Donovan cards. I've had (and have seen several) Yellow
ones before; but, never a Blue one.

The Blue one is very unusual; since my understanding of this
color printing process, is that the Yellow ink is normally
the 1st inking pass in the printing process. And, in this case
the Yellow ink stage was obviously skipped. So, the Cyan ink
was applied, which would have normally resulted in the Green
background; but, since there was no Yellow.....Blue resulted.

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Posted By: barrysloate

Excellent analysis Ted. My hunch was right that the blue one is extremely unusual.

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