Topps Venezuelans

[here2havefun]

Hey all, just bought a 1977 Venezuelan sticker Nolan Ryan, I had a couple questions about it, hoping someone here can provide insight.

The card came with the complete scrap book back, that contains a short blurb about Nolan Ryan (see a link to picks below). The card was clearly pasted to the scrap book page, you can see the paper loss pattern on the back of the sticker lines up with the white paper at the top of the scrap book page. I've looked through other 1977 stickers on Ebay, and very few contain the corresponding scrap book portion, they only contain the sticker.

I'd like to know if having the scrap book portion that goes with the sticker increases of the overall value? And if I wanted to get it graded by PSA, would I send the scrap book portion along with the sticker....or will they only grade the sticker?

Thanks everyone.

Pics:
https://imgur.com/a/YwheF7W

[a761506]

The album paper is worthless.

The damage to the card is common to nearly every 77 Ryan in existence.

PSA will grade it a 1, they would only grade it with the album paper if it was attached, although, I suspect they'd give it a AUTH grade in that case.

[here2havefun]

Originally Posted by a761506

The album paper is worthless.

The damage to the card is common to nearly every 77 Ryan in existence.

PSA will grade it a 1, they would only grade it with the album paper if it was attached, although, I suspect they'd give it a AUTH grade in that case.

Good to know, thank you for the info Josh!

[a761506]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1962-Venezu...4AAOSwArFc9CqL

This relatively worthless card is mislabeled as Venezuelan when the Venezuelan version of the card does not have trademark info or PRINTED IN U.S.A. on it.

I've seen multiple instances of PSA labeling cards Venezuelan which are, in fact, US issued. And every time it happens, multiple parties get scammed, it devalues genuine cards in the pop report, and it hurts the hobby in general.

I contacted PWCC to point this out on this card. I suspect they will remove the listing, I hope they return the card to PSA to get the holder corrected and subsequently the pop report. I'll be watching.

[swarmee]

PWCC and PSA are a little busy right now, but see if you can get through their phone lines.

[here2havefun]

Originally Posted by a761506

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1962-Venezu...4AAOSwArFc9CqL

This relatively worthless card is mislabeled as Venezuelan when the Venezuelan version of the card does not have trademark info or PRINTED IN U.S.A. on it.

I've seen multiple instances of PSA labeling cards Venezuelan which are, in fact, US issued. And every time it happens, multiple parties get scammed, it devalues genuine cards in the pop report, and it hurts the hobby in general.

I contacted PWCC to point this out on this card. I suspect they will remove the listing, I hope they return the card to PSA to get the holder corrected and subsequently the pop report. I'll be watching.

PWCC finally took down the auction. I sent them a message over the weekend about it, heard back from them an hour ago. Thank you Josh for bringing it to everyone's attention.

[here2havefun]

Originally Posted by here2havefun

Hey all, just bought a 1977 Venezuelan sticker Nolan Ryan, I had a couple questions about it, hoping someone here can provide insight.

The card came with the complete scrap book back, that contains a short blurb about Nolan Ryan (see a link to picks below). The card was clearly pasted to the scrap book page, you can see the paper loss pattern on the back of the sticker lines up with the white paper at the top of the scrap book page. I've looked through other 1977 stickers on Ebay, and very few contain the corresponding scrap book portion, they only contain the sticker.

I'd like to know if having the scrap book portion that goes with the sticker increases of the overall value? And if I wanted to get it graded by PSA, would I send the scrap book portion along with the sticker....or will they only grade the sticker?

Thanks everyone.

Pics:
https://imgur.com/a/YwheF7W

Originally Posted by a761506

The album paper is worthless.

The damage to the card is common to nearly every 77 Ryan in existence.

PSA will grade it a 1, they would only grade it with the album paper if it was attached, although, I suspect they'd give it a AUTH grade in that case.

Just got this '77 Nolan Ryan sticker back from PSA, ended up getting a 2, which I'm super happy with.






And here are all of the Venezuelan grades from the bulk sub:

POOR 1 1967 Venezuela Topps 158 Luke Appling
GOOD 2 MK 1967 Venezuela Topps 159 Nap Lajoie
GOOD 2 1966 Venezuela Topps 120 Harmon Killebrew
GOOD 2 1967 Venezuela Topps 303 Willie McCovey
VERY GOOD 3 1964 Venezuela Topps 120 Don Drysdale
GOOD 2 1964 Venezuela Topps 150 Willie Mays
GOOD 2 1962 Venezuela Topps 28 Minnie Minoso
GOOD 2 1962 Venezuela Topps 190 Wally Moon No Cap
VERY GOOD 3 1962 Venezuela Topps 175 Frank Howard
GOOD 2 1977 Venezuelan League Stickers 137 Rod Carew
POOR 1 MC 1977 Venezuelan League Stickers 151 Steve Carlton
POOR 1 MC 1977 Venezuelan League Stickers 159 Tom Seaver
POOR 1 MC 1977 Venezuelan League Stickers 177 Willie McCovey
GOOD 2 MC 1977 Venezuelan League Stickers 160 Jim Palmer
POOR 1 MC 1977 Venezuelan League Stickers 147 Lou Brock
GOOD 2 1977 Venezuelan League Stickers 158 Nolan Ryan

[DBesse27]

Wow, I’m very jealous of your 64 Mays!

[here2havefun]

Originally Posted by DBesse27

Wow, I’m very jealous of your 64 Mays!

Thanks! Was going to say the same thing about your Pete Rose 64, don't usually see Venz with corners like that. Good stuff.

[Mariner]

I enjoyed reading and catching up on this thread....it has been awhile. It does seem that more collectors are starting to enjoy the significant challenge of collecting Venies.

[here2havefun]

Grabbed this off ebay recently, my first auto'ed Venezuelan.