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Old 07-14-2017, 07:33 PM
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The T215-1 set includes both Gabby Street cards....Portrait and Catching.





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The T215-1 set includes both Gabby Street cards....Portrait and Catching.





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I don't have back scans but here are front scans of a Street Catching and Portrait.

Street (Catching) T215-1.jpgStreet (Port) T215-1.jpg
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Hi Pat

Thanks much for posting these two Street cards.

It's not often that these T215-1 cards are seen.


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Excellent post! You may want to put the "index" at the start of the thread.
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I don't have back scans but here are front scans of a Street Catching and Portrait.

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Patrick, is that your Street catching? I only know of one, and it belongs to Richard Masson, so this would be a second example.
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Patrick, is that your Street catching? I only know of one, and it belongs to Richard Masson, so this would be a second example.
Sean, they are not my cards just scans I had.
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..^............... brown LENOX examples ...............^


The timeline of the printing of these Group B subjects with AMERICAN BEAUTY 460, LENOX, and UZIT backs was Jan - Feb 1911. This exact timeline coincides with the printing
of the T80 (Military Men) cards. Shown below, the T80 cards were printed with CAIRO MONOPOL, LENOX, OLD MILL, TOLSTOI, and UZIT backs.

To date, 25 brown LENOX cards are confirmed. If my theory proves true, I predict that 11 (or 12) more T206 cards may eventually be discovered with the brown LENOX backs.
Exactly 19 subjects of the 25 brown LENOX cards are from the 350/460 series, and 6 subjects are from the 460-only series......


350/460 series....Group B




350/460 series subjects confirmed with brown LENOX backs

Bradley (bat)
Burch (fielding)
Cobb (bat off shoulder)
Conroy (bat)
Crawford (bat)
Jennings (one hand)
Jordan (bat)
Lajoie (bat)
Lake (no ball)
Leach (cap)
Leifield (bat)
Manning (pitching)
McQuillan (bat)
Overall (yellow sky)
Pfeister (throwing)
F. Smith (Chicago & Boston)
Wagner (bat on right shoulder)
Willetts
Willis (bat)


T80 cards




So, here is my hypothesis: The printer at American Lithographic failed to switch from the brown ink after press runs of T80 CAIRO MONOPOL backs to black ink prior to starting
a press run of T206 LENOX backs. Apparently, this mistake was caught quickly, which would explain why very few T206 brown LENOX examples exist.
Instead of QA discarding these brown LENOX cards, the sheets were factory-cut, and these brown LENOX cards were shipped along with the black LENOX cards to Factory #30.
And, inserted into LENOX cigarette packs.


The 6 brown LENOX cards from the 460-only series are from the same group of 9 subjects that are the only confirmed PIEDMONT 460 Factory #42 cards in this series.

460-only series subjects confirmed with brown LENOX backs

Chase (trophy)
Latham
Marquard (pitching)
Merkle (throwing)
Schlei (portrait)
Wiltse (portrait-cap)

I expect these 3 subjects from the 460-only series will eventually be found with brown LENOX backs......

Schlei (batting)
Schaefer (Washington)
Seymour (portrait)


Let's see your brown LENOX cards. If you have these very rare "gems", why not show them. So, please post them here.


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Last edited by tedzan; 08-08-2020 at 09:44 PM. Reason: Added Crawford (bat) to 350/460 series list
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Okay Ted, here's mine:

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Hey Sean

Thanks for posting your brown LENOX.


Will I see you in Chicago next week ?


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