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Old 08-03-2015, 07:13 AM
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Default NEW T206 DRUM find....confirmed list UPDATED (Aug 1, 2015)

At the National last week, Chris Browne found a Jake Stahl (glove) card with a DRUM back.

Thanks Chris.



The DRUM cards depict players in the 350-only series and the 350/460 series. The DRUM cards were issued circa....Summer/Fall of 1910.






DRUM backs confirmed......total = 148 subjects


350-only subjects...................... 108 subjects

Abstein
Adkins
Arellanes
Armbruster
Atz
Barbeau
Jack Barry (A's)
Barry (Milwaukee)
Batch
Becker
Bescher (portrait)
Burke
Carr
Casey
Charles
Clark
Congalton
Davidson
Delehanty (Louisville)
Dineen

Donovan (throwing)
Dorner
Downey (fielding)
Downs
Egan
Engle
Fiene (portrait)
Fiene (throwing)
Fletcher
Freeman
Gasper
Graham (Boston)
Hallman
Hartsel
Hinchman (Toledo)
Hoblitzell
Hofman
Howell (portrait)
Huggins (hands at mouth)
Hunter

Jackson
Kelley
Killian (portrait)
Kisinger
Knabe
Knight (portrait)
Knight (bat)
Krause (portrait)
Krause (pitching)
Kroh
LaPorte
Lattimore
Lavender
Lennox
Livingstone
Maddox
Maloney
Marshall
McAleese
McBride

McGann
Milan
Mitchell (Cincinnati)
Mitchell (Toronto)
Moeller
Moran (Chicago)
Moran (Providence)
Moriarty
Mullen (portrait)
Murray (bat)
Myers (fielding)
Nattress
Oakes
Perring
Pfeister (seated)
Phelps
Phillippe
Pickering
Purtell
Quinn

Randall
Raymond
Rhoades (hands at chest)
Rhodes
Ritter
Rudolph
Schirm
Schlafly
Schmidt (portrait)
Scott
Slagle
Smith (Buffalo)
Snodgrass (bat)
Speaker
Starr
Stephens
Strang
Street (portrait)
Summers
Sweeney (Boston)

Taylor
Thielman
Thomas
Titus
Unglaub
Warhop
Willett (bat)
Zimmerman


Super-Prints...... 4 subjects (to date); and, 2 not yet confirmed

Chance (yellow portrait)
Chase (dark cap)
Cobb (red portrait)
Evers (Chicago-yellow sky)

Chase (blue portrait)...................... not yet
Mathewson (dark cap) ................... not yet



350/460 subjects...................... 36 subjects

Baker
Bender (no trees)
Burch (fielding)
Conroy (bat)
Crawford (bat)
Doolan (bat)
Downey (bat)
Doyle (bat)
Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Griffith (bat)
Jennings (two hands)
Johnson (pitching)
Jordan (bat)
Konetchy (glove low)
Lake (St Louis-no ball)
Leifield (bat)
Magee (bat)
Manning (pitching)
McQuillan (bat)
Murphy (bat)

Nichols (bat)
Overall (yellow sky)
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)
Reulbach (no glove)
Rucker (throwing)
Seymour (throwing)
Stahl (glove)
Steinfeldt (bat)
Street (catching)
Sweeney (New York)
Wagner (bat on right shoulder)
Wilhelm (bat)
Willetts
Willis (bat)
Wiltse (pitching)



NOTE
Several years ago, I predicted that these three 350/460 subjects would eventually be discovered with DRUM backs. Recently, 2 have been confirmed.
Mullin remains to be discovered.

Conroy (bat) ............ CONFIRMED

Mullin (bat)

Stahl (glove) ............ CONFIRMED



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Old 08-03-2015, 09:28 AM
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Great research as usual Ted.

What's your opinion on Dode Paskert eventually being found with a Drum back? Do you think he's extremely likely to be a "no print"?

Thanks for the info, I'm trying to to keep my back run list realistic!

Best,

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Old 08-03-2015, 10:11 AM
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Default Hi Steve W.

Here is a T205 Paskert / DRUM card.....so, I wouldn't be surprised if a T206 Paskert eventually shows up with a DRUM back.


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Old 08-03-2015, 10:37 AM
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Thanks Ted!

I didn't even know that Dode had a T205 Drum. So, I'll keep the T206 Drum on my "need" list. I'll start saving now so that if it turns up around 2037, I will be able to afford it!!

Best,

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you have a right to be here.
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no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams,
it is still a beautiful world.
Strive to be happy.
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Old 08-04-2015, 07:17 AM
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Nice find Chris and thanks for posting about it, Ted.
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Old 08-04-2015, 06:46 PM
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Nice find Chris and thanks for posting about it, Ted.
And, thank you for the compliments.

However, not too much excitement here over this find. I guess discovering new T206 DRUM cards has become passe......


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Old 08-04-2015, 06:49 PM
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Any idea on the value of the new finds?

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Old 08-05-2015, 06:58 PM
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Since this Stahl / DRUM card is the only one known, the sky is the limit....if it is consigned to an auction.


TED Z
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I'm still searching for these 4 cards to complete my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set (74 subjects)

CAMNITZ (hands over head)....DOYLE (portrait)....McGRAW (portrait-cap)....TINKER (bat off shoulder)
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Old 08-06-2015, 09:49 PM
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Default NEW T206 DRUM find....confirmed list UPDATED (Aug 1, 2015)

With this latest DRUM find (Stahl), that leaves Mullin as the last out-standing 350/460 series DRUM card. Theoretically, it should exist.

So guys, let's see who is the first to find this card.



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Old 08-06-2015, 09:54 PM
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Sweet tiny baby Jesus do I hope it is me who finds it.

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So guys, let's see who is the first to find this card.
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Old 08-08-2015, 10:24 AM
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Default NEW T206 DRUM find....confirmed list UPDATED (Aug 1, 2015)

Here's the new kid on the block, Stahl (glove) / DRUM.

Courtesy of Chris Browne.







Thanks Chris,


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Old 08-08-2015, 11:07 AM
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very sick!!! still after 100 yrs!
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Old 08-10-2015, 04:02 PM
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Default Hey Johnny V

This recent find makes you wonder how many more unconfirmed T206's with rare backs have been hiding for 105 years ?


Take care ole buddy......see you some time soon in Pt. Pleasant. Pick a good restaurant.


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Old 08-10-2015, 06:15 PM
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Where was it found? And how?
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Where was it found? And how?
I spoke with the dealer/owner in April at the Strongsville show. He asked me what I collected and we struck up a conversation about the recent issue of PSA's SMR with the article about T206s and their backs. The gentleman informed me that he had some T206s at home and how he was going to take a closer look at his cards after reading this article.

He told me that he knew he had a Drum back, but couldn't remember who the player was on the front. I informed him that if he ever wanted to sell his T206s that I would be interested in taking a look at them. I got the impression that he was more curious about seeing what he had than selling them, so we wrapped up our conversation and I moved along to the next dealer's table.

Fast forward to July/August and the dealer/owner brought his T206s to the National with him. I had heard rumors that a dealer had 3 unique T206s at the show. Imagine my surprise when I finally saw who the dealer was. The same gentleman I had spoken to in Strongsville.

The Stahl is a cool discovery and I'm glad to see it finally posted here.


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Old 08-10-2015, 08:10 PM
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Default Ted......

sounds great!!! can't wait my friend...

Jantz......he has one card left........of the 3 unique......the one he has left is OMG!

it's a big, big , big, card........

Ted knows......and you....JUST INCREDIBLE how those cards showed up.......

wish I was there to even hold the final card he has left
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Old 08-12-2015, 11:48 AM
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Default Hi Jantz

Really great story, it's......"the stuff that dreams are made of"......to quote Bogey in the final scene of the Maltese Falcon.


Thanks Jantz for sharing it with us.

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Old 08-12-2015, 08:13 PM
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Default Exactly!!

this guy had 3 cards alone that were INSANE!!

the one he has left I'm in love with.......I just could never afford it
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