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Old 03-09-2005, 04:27 PM
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Old 03-09-2005, 04:31 PM
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Posted By: Judge Dred

The following is from the item description:

You can see that the cut on the left edge is a little awkward but there is absolutely no evidence of tampering and I would say for certain that the left edge is a natural, original cut, just a little funky.

SanDiegoWill is a very reliable seller of vintage material on ebay.

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Old 03-09-2005, 04:36 PM
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I read Will's description, but I was curious what others think. I haven't seen such a "funky side" to an n172 before. The jagged cut at the end of the curvy part reminds me of how I cut wrapping paper.

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Old 03-09-2005, 04:38 PM
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is to get it graded than you may want to pass on this auction. SanDiegoWill is a legitimate seller. I've purchased many items from him and have had no problems. My concern is not with the seller but the grader. I think PSA and SGC would have a problem with that left edge, natural or not.

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Posted By: Judge Dred

SGC is a little forgiving on some of the miscuts. PSA will grade with a possible MC (miscut) qualifier. I've had N172s graded by both SGC and PSA that had odd cuts.

If it looks like a "vintage" cut then they might grade it.

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I have bought a lot of cards from sandieglow and he is very honest. He has listed a lot of cards and stated that they where trimmed. Maybe if you contact him and ask if he will gaurantee that it will grade and not come back trimmed, he probable will allow it.

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Old 03-09-2005, 04:50 PM
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Scott is right on the money; I want to know if it will grade. I've bought great cards from Will before and I did write to see if he'd guaranty it (the auction ends soon though). I'm still worried that a grading company would find (or think they have found) "evidence of trimming," so it sounds risky to bid unless Will comes back with a guaranty. Thanks for the help.

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Old 03-09-2005, 07:33 PM
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I just looked and sandieglow has a few N172's graded by SGC listed on ebAY which tells me that the card in question is probable trimmed or altered and came back that way from SGC. Not accusing anyone just looks funny...

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One of the best features of Wills item description is his phone number. You can call him and he'll be happy to answer any questions you have about an item.

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Looks like someone got a Billy Hamilton for a bargain price by today's standards.

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