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Old 07-11-2017, 01:01 PM
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Default Slabs - Truly Protective or Harmful?

At what point will we start to see the residual effects, if any, of our cards in slabs?
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Old 07-11-2017, 01:07 PM
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The baseball hall of fame has concerns:

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...the most startling piece of news for the hobby world was the museums disdain for what has become the Holy Grail of card collecting the slab, a plastic encapsulation designed to protect valuable items (cards, autographs, ticket stubs, etc.) and prevent fraud.

Yes, the museum staff immediately breaks open every slabbed item donated to their collection (Editors note: Key word there is donated, not items on loan).

The problem with the slab? With several different products for slabbing in the marketplace, the museum has no way of knowing whether any particular petroleum-based plastic slab is likely to cause damage in the long-term to a vulnerable card or other paper item encased in the slab. The practice of slabbing began recently enough that there is not a long enough track record to be certain that damage will not result over time.
http://www.sportscollectorsdigest.co...slabbed-cards/

To be fair they did go on to say that it also has to do with the amount of space the slabs take.

Here is a thread that was started when that article came out:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=223468
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Old 07-11-2017, 01:17 PM
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I am sure our slabs are made of nearly inert plastics. Stored indoors, out of light, not in a humid cellar, I would think they would be fine for a very long time.
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Old 07-11-2017, 01:25 PM
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Yeah what's the worry exactly? Has there been any instance of a card being damaged while inside of a holder by the holder?
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Yeah what's the worry exactly? Has there been any instance of a card being damaged while inside of a holder by the holder?
Yes, I've seen a few SGC slabs where the card got damaged by sliding around and getting over or under their gasket.

Just got another one like that, and am debating returning it or getting SGC to re-slab it (hopefully at no charge) at the next National.

The card slid over the gasket and got jammed under the label. When un-jammed, the corner became nicked with a tiny piece of paper loss!

This was, unfortunately, a very nice tobacco era card...my reasons for keeping it, if I decide to, are that I still like the card, the damage won't affect the "Authentic" grade, and most importantly, I'm afraid that shipping the card will damage it further (it's what caused this in the first place).

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Yeah what's the worry exactly? Has there been any instance of a card being damaged while inside of a holder by the holder?
As Dmitry mentioned, yes, I have seen instances where cards are misplaced inside the slabs, causing them to slide around or get pinched and damaged.

The main reason for my question is grading is still relatively new, all things considered, and I've never heard of any of the companies stating what their slabs are made of, or what technology is used to insure the ultimate protection beyond the obvious holder. I don't know exactly when the first "slab" came around, but say we're in year 20. What if by year 30, we find out the plastics are corrosive? It could be too late for some cards.
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Yeah what's the worry exactly? Has there been any instance of a card being damaged while inside of a holder by the holder?
As the article I linked states:

"The practice of slabbing began recently enough that there is not a long enough track record to be certain that damage will not result over time."

Plastics have been seen to destroy other artifacts over a long period of time. At this point the concern comes from the uncertainty of these plastics.
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Relative (emphasis intentional) to other ways of storing-- including other ways you would store the particular card--, I think the slabs are okay. If you put it in a penny sleeve and top loader you aren't certain how it will be in thirty years either.

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Not sure if this would apply to cards that have spent many years encapsulated, but I was watching a documentary many years ago on PBS, if memory serves, and they had several medieval books that had been stored for years with very little or no exposure to air. The moment they were taken out of that environment they actually started to disintegrate and crumble. I don't remember if they were composed largely of vellum or actual paper?

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Old 07-12-2017, 12:19 PM
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The major cause of damage to cards is physical handling-- so you if you're taking cards in and out of various holder systems regularly, the physical handling is the biggest potential source.

A serious study of holder, materials etc would be excellent for the hobby, but I think keeping a card in a holder/penny sleeve in dry/dark conditions is good.

As a side note, I got a storage rooms tour of the Chicago History Museum by the head historian, and they have different environmental conditions for different things. Photos are stored in different conditions than say medals. The highlight of the tour was the bed Lincoln died on. It had what they believed were his blood stains, but they weren't willing to do a DNA test yet until it could be done by taking only a very small piece of the cloth (the current required amount of cloth isn't to their liking). Though he said with scientific advancement he assumed it would be done in the near future.

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