Outed cards, now including a 130K gain on an Aaron rookie

[HRBAKER]

"Don't rock the boat" and "Don't bite the hand" come to mind.

[samosa4u]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Unless they can delve deeply into PSAs database and inner circle, nothing at all will change. Unless the FBI forces the change, you will see nothing positive or proactive that is done voluntarily. Dishonest people and corrupt entities do not instill change unless they are caught, and the change is forced upon them. Hell, PSA still won’t even admit there’s a problem brewing... despite the endless flood of altered numerically slabbed cards being exposed every day (with no hint of a slowdown in sight).

This hobby/business provides no voice for the consumer... it’s just the same hyperbole and lies from the controlling “powers that be”. Since the hypnotized majority wants status-quo, and the offending companies won’t come clean, the FBI represents our last hope for full disclosure and positive change. Please don’t let us down!

Well, I recall reading somewhere that the FBI guys sometimes attend the Net54 Dinners and then afterwards they all play a few games of Musical Chairs. Maybe a few of them post on this forum? An update from one of them would be nice. The only guy who did comment on this whole thing was Lichtman, but he got ripped apart and I doubt he'll be discussing this subject here again. LOL

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by samosa4u

Well, I recall reading somewhere that the FBI guys sometimes attend the Net54 Dinners and then afterwards they all play a few games of Musical Chairs. Maybe a few of them post on this forum? An update from one of them would be nice. The only guy who did comment on this whole thing was Lichtman, but he got ripped apart and I doubt he'll be discussing this subject here again. LOL

There is zero chance an FBI agent is going to comment in public about an ongoing investigation, much less on a message board.

[GeoPoto]

Nobody knows how much "help" any given graded card has received. What we think we know is that it received the grade fairly, it is authentic, and it's scarcity can be approximated by pop reports and other data. The "value" if there is any in graded cards stems from their rarety. The "reveal" in the Blowout saga is that the doctors are mining mid-level graded cards to produce high(er)-level graded cards. This is very threatening to the TPG business model. I have to believe that PSA is scrambling now to prevent that going forward.

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[1952boyntoncollector]

As long a people keep buying the number on the flip...nothing to see here

[EvilKing00]

DBBDE500-E839-433C-AC07-4D87C7C9DCC5.jpg

Im no expert, but i dont like this card

[perezfan]

The WaJo looks ok to me. Appears to have full borders and natural corner wear. I think a doctor would fiddle with that upper-left corner, to lessen the chip.

Who's selling that card?

[EvilKing00]

Originally Posted by perezfan

The WaJo looks ok to me. Appears to have full borders and natural corner wear. I think a doctor would fiddle with that upper-left corner, to lessen the chip.

Who's selling that card?

im screen shot dosnt do it justice, the border color just looks wrong to me

[edhans]

[QUOTE Im no expert, but i dont like this card[/QUOTE]

I don't think he's talking about alteration, but authenticity. And I'm skeptical of it as well. It's on ebay now.

[perezfan]

Aha... the provided pic is rather small. Will search it on eBay... thanks!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Look N' See for yourself lol.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=5969

[Johnny630]

He butchered those .....I know this set very well, borders were never meant to be that thin. Total disgrace from Newport Beach :-(

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Look N' See for yourself lol.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=5969

Cracks me up how PSA will deduct heavily for microscopic/miniscule paper loss. Yet when a huge percentage of the borders are hacked off, the card gets bumped up 3 grades. I guess that's not paper loss in their opinion.

Card looked far better as a "6", and some fat-walleted slabhead payed 113 times more for the "Mini" version. Imagine starting a thread... If you had $1,827 to spend on any card you wanted, what card would you pick?

[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Look N' See for yourself lol.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=5969

Oh, jeez. A $16 card turned into an $1,843 card.