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Old 03-31-2019, 04:47 AM
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Default Help ID a T206 back stamp!

I have ID'd the card as a Southern Lg Tony Thebo-Waco, but am curious as to the Back Stamp (looks like a policeman or someone in uniform) & is this a regular Black Old Mill? Not very versed in Old Mill & the color variations.

I have a chance to buy this card (or partial card is more correct), but don't have any idea what it may be worth!

Any enlightenment will be appreciated!

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Old 03-31-2019, 05:09 AM
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It’s definitely black, but I don’t recognize the stamp.
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Old 03-31-2019, 06:55 AM
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While it's great that you are asking questions before you buy, if they're asking an amount that makes you feel like you need to ask questions before you buy, they're asking too much.

$10 is the absolute top of what you should even consider paying.
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Old 03-31-2019, 07:10 AM
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Not tied to any specific collector as far as I know.
https://thegreatt206backstampproject...luting-man.php



Looks like whoever it was did like Old Mill. The Great T206 Back Stamp Project is calling it "Saluting Man."
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Old 03-31-2019, 07:11 AM
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$10 is the absolute top of what you should even consider paying.
As a Southern Leagues filler, I could easily see someone paying $25.
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The Saluting Man stamp has been seen before (as has been posted) but I don't see it that often. Agreed that it isn't associated with any specific collector and is a generic stamp. It's interesting that the three shown here are all on Old Mill backs which leads me to think they are all from the same person, but who they are is anyone's guess. I'll add this new one to the project website with the others.

Thanks for posting the images.
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Old 03-31-2019, 11:32 AM
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--all the interesting posts---I think they answered my questions.

Definitely seems like it was the same person doing the stamping---has the "saluting man" been seen on any other Brand?

Scott--I haven't been asked for a price, but was prepared to offer $10 at the most! I wasn't sure if being Old Mill made it worth "hundreds" or not!

Thanks again, Gents, for the very helpful info. I'm glad I posted if it is going to help the "project"!
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As a Southern Leagues filler, I could easily see someone paying $25.
Then you need to be buying from me lol!
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Then you need to be buying from me lol!
If you were selling on COMC, I would. You wouldn't believe the prices I get selling on COMC, I guess.
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---and general info---Card is now up on BST Auction if you want to follow how it goes.
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I like that stamp and it is getting a little traction in the BST. He and Large Ass could be brothers!

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I have ID'd the card as a Southern Lg Tony Thebo-Waco, but am curious as to the Back Stamp (looks like a policeman or someone in uniform) & is this a regular Black Old Mill? Not very versed in Old Mill & the color variations.

I have a chance to buy this card (or partial card is more correct), but don't have any idea what it may be worth!

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Saw this topic and I myself is looking for info on a stamp card that I have if anyone have any info would be much appreciated
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This "Date Stamped" Wagner has been graded as PSA-2, no?
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Old 07-08-2019, 09:23 AM
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I Recently saw the article your talking about i found this specific card at a antique mall a while back haven't gotten it check out yet I'm still researching and looking for any info I could get thanks
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Old 07-08-2019, 09:43 AM
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So you found this Date-Stamped Wagner from an antique mall? That's a nice find. Congrats!

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Old 07-08-2019, 12:04 PM
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You are lucky to have found the stamp. That card is just a common without it. But the date is significant and Wagner cards with that stamp routinely sell for six figures. Without the stamp, it's a dollar bin special.
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Old 07-08-2019, 03:12 PM
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Appreciate any info I could get the more the better I could understand about the stamp and card
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Appreciate any info I could get the more the better I could understand about the stamp and card
There is a 99.99999999999% chance it is fake and that is a very generous percentage on it being real. It is either worth one or two dollars or one or two million dollars.

How much is the owner asking for it?

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I'm curious to know other than the PSA 2 graded Dated Stamp Wagner have there ever been any other Reported or Documented card like that that have surfaced over the years that's talking about the stamp and date the only one I could find is that one in the article I'm just here seeking info
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Old 07-08-2019, 05:54 PM
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I'm curious to know other than the PSA 2 graded Dated Stamp Wagner have there ever been any other Reported or Documented card like that that have surfaced over the years that's talking about the stamp and date the only one I could find is that one in the article I'm just here seeking info
It is a stamp on a card, it could have been put on there yesterday or the date stamped on the card. I would bet way closer to yesterday.

For the most part collecting stamps on the back of cards is a novelty. The stamp in most cases makes the card worth WAY less. One stamp commands a premium, that is only because everyone knows of the guy trying to collect them.
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Old 07-08-2019, 06:19 PM
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There are at least three stamps that command a premium: Jeff Burdick, F. Scott Fitzgerald, and then maybe Howe McCormick (least of the 3).

But yes, the guy who owned the date stamped T206 had quite a few of them, and it's presumed that they're dated when he acquired them. Some are on the Great T206 Back Stamp Project website.

And the card pictured is fake/counterfeit until proven otherwise.
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I had to look at the date to see if it was April 1st? To me the Wagner looks pretty good. But the name is cut off so I really can’t see the ink. I’m intrigued. Anyone or everyone know what a real Wags is worth so I think the OP is pulling a certain part of our body or chain.
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Here's a "William Meyers" on a Cobb.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/T206-Ty-Cob...cAAOSwY-ldIrEc
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