Free Reviews at the National

[ThePurpleVoice]

Hey guys,

For those interested, we are offering a free reviews for Purple Label stickers at the National.

Greg would like to put some faces to board member names and vice versa. We will be there Tuesday through Sunday. He hopes to meet a lot of you.

Call or Text Greg at 631-885-0495

[Peter_Spaeth]

There are no words.

[calvindog]

Lol

[Goudey77]

How have I not heard of this service before?
See you at the national.

[oldjudge]

Will you put a purple sticker on unslabbed cards if they look really nice?

[DJCollector1]

Many guys here are "down" on the current grading companies, and rightfully so.

But, I think this idea COULD have some merit. Well, if they were to start inspecting for alterations at least....that would be one way. (Plus I have seen a number of "purple sticker" cards on Ebay from time to time)

If this was a service that could be tailored to very "cost efficiently look for alterations", as well as their current "this card stands out as excellent for the grade" opinions/offerings, then it could be a great thing for the hobby.

But, one would think that "Purple Label" could only be but so good at spotting alterations.
Like has been noted time and time again in these threads, most of the card doctors can pass some work (cards) through the bigger grading companies, so I don't know if this could ever be a good idea, or one that Purple Label would even want to attempt or risk their reputation on.

Regardless, I look at this as a "Purple Label indicator" opinion of "card's eye appeal exceeds the grade".
This isn't necessarily a bad thing..... even though I'm sure many of you will argue its not really actually needed.

Again, if their mission could be expanded to help spot alterations and doctoring, this could be a great idea.
But from what I am seeing, I don't think thats the case , and they seem to be generally looking towards the eye appeal of cards in general.

Although I'm sure this may not be a popular idea here, I think its intriguing.
I can envision scouring Ebay or (pick your choice of card outlets) looking over for cards that are in a certain grade range, with the added benefit of the Purple Label.

I can certainly see this as a possible good thing,if done well....... contrast that to the "High End, and Premium Quality stickers" found on some PWCC items that aren't exactly put there by an impartial source.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by ThePurpleVoice

Hey guys,

For those interested, we are offering a free reviews for Purple Label stickers at the National.

Greg would like to put some faces to board member names and vice versa. We will be there Tuesday through Sunday. He hopes to meet a lot of you.

Call or Text Greg at 631-885-0495

An introduction of some sort would probably be a good idea? Who's Greg??? Is he like "Charlie?"

[Promethius88]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

An introduction of some sort would probably be a good idea? Who's Greg??? Is he like "Charlie?"

I Googled "Greg" then clicked on "Images". This was the first pic that came up. Not sure if it's the same person.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Promethius88

I Googled "Greg" then clicked on "Images". This was the first pic that came up. Not sure if it's the same person.

and what are "greg's" credentials???? Kelly's skills so far aren't terribly impressive??

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

and what are "greg's" credentials???? Kelly's skills so far aren't terribly impressive??

They have to be every bit as good as Brent and Betsy and look at how well they done.

[Promethius88]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

and what are "greg's" credentials???? Kelly's skills so far aren't terribly impressive??

Well, I Googled the words "Greg's credentials" and this was the first image that came up. As can be seen, I'm no internet detective, lol!

[trambo]

I just did a little reading about this on their website. It's a little confusing but it appears the "Purple Label" picks out nicer cards for their grade and has a database so you can verify it to be true. Not to completely compare but doesn't PWCC have something like this and is this something the hobby really needs? I know I'll likely never be a user of this service and will more than likely scrape off the purple label of any card I buy (if there ever is one).

Would be interested in other opinions, though, if I'm missing something here.

[perezfan]

I agree that a service of identifying forgeries would have merit. But the authenticators would have to really know their stuff. Currently there is NO ENTITY in the entire hobby who is looking out for the customer. Who is in our corner when it comes to identifying and eliminating fraud in the hobby? The Auction Houses? The Dealers? The TPGs? Sloan's Letters are a clear indication that its only about money and pleasing shareholders.

The answer is no one. We are left to do it ourselves. If not for a couple of tech-savvy sleuths on Blowout, this entire mess would’ve gone completely unnoticed. And even on Blowout, the moderator is now compressing threads and minimizing the scandal’s exposure. This, within the one remaining form of communication we consumers have (the forums). The recent revelation of the 31 card PWCC/PSA submission was combined into the Mantle thread, where it won’t be viewed by nearly as many people.

It would actually make for a great movie, in which a few individuals have to combat an entire corrupt industry. But to get back on point, there would be a need for a trustworthy and knowledgeable entity that would simply deem Cards as altered or not. As for this “looks good for the grade sticker” nonsense, there is just no need. Collectors are perfectly capable of determining what looks good and what they want in their collections.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

An introduction of some sort would probably be a good idea? Who's Greg??? Is he like "Charlie?"

Here you go Pete. http://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=270933

[lowpopper]

This is me if you have not met me yet.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidse.../#947749f7a4dd


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Regarding alterations/forgeries:
Any card that in which an alteration has been detected
has always been disqualified from receiving a sticker.
Trim-gate has only heightened our levels of detection.
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[HolyGrail]

As a collector, I have hung out with Greg at the National and shows in White Plains, Boston, and Philly for the past few years. He has helped me buy and stopped me from buying numerous cards from dealers on the floor. Greg has a fantastic eye. He's taught me a lot of stuff, too.

(He has also pioneered an effective security system to prevent further thefts in White Plains.)

[Johnny630]

Retail Theft is always high at the Rosemont Location.....it never hurts for a extra set of eyes...everyone beware of your surroundings.....cards/valuables.

[Exhibitman]

[PolarBear]

The coin side of CU, PCGS, has the same business model in place. It's called CAC and they have a "green bean" instead of a "purple square". They evaluate slabbed coins and sticker them if they're exceptional for the grade. Honestly, I couldn't care less but the model has been in place now for over a decade and CAC'd coins carry a premium, even to the point that many collectors won't buy a slabbed coin unless it has a bean.

I can totally see a service like this taking off in light of the grading debacle going on. If someone steps up to the plate and can offer an unbiased evaluation of graded cards, they might do pretty well.

Again, I couldn't care less one way or the other. I've mostly been a coin guy in my collecting life, and don't care if a slabbed coin has a bean or not since I can evaluate the coin myself as good as anyone. But, don't underestimate the droves of collectors who don't have the confidence to do that.

[Paul S]

Originally Posted by HolyGrail

As a collector, I have hung out with Greg at the National and shows in White Plains, Boston, and Philly for the past few years. He has helped me buy and stopped me from buying numerous cards from dealers on the floor. Greg has a fantastic eye. He's taught me a lot of stuff, too.

(He has also pioneered an effective security system to prevent further thefts in White Plains.)

OMG, you sound just like PWCC. You are the same person that writes about collecting for Forbes? And you need advice from from a purple sticker?

[perezfan]

Has anyone here actually utilized this service (outside of Greg's friends and relatives?)

[swarmee]

I think his free review service could be very valuable to the people affected by the PSA/SGC alteration scandal. Since he is offering to do the review for free, and will not sticker the cards unless he agrees they are unaltered and nice for the grade, it could be ammunition for people who would like to have someone pre-review their card for a return under the PSA (or former SGC) grade guarantee. If he then charges a small fee for writing down the alterations he detects with the cards, that could be shown to PSA or SGC with the intent of getting reimbursed for the current market value of an unaltered card in the same grade.

So for those cards that are on the same submission lists with known altered cards, this would be a solid help for them, IMO.

I have posted in the past that the label is not my cup of tea, and it's been pretty well established that PWCC's stickers were not given in the unbiased fashion they claim. That doesn't mean that Greg's Purple stickers will fall into the same trap. I haven't met hardly any of you (save the 10 or so at the Dallas Card Show in April and 1880s a couple of years ago), but the picture of Greg makes him look much younger than I guessed he was.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by HolyGrail

As a collector, I have hung out with Greg at the National and shows in White Plains, Boston, and Philly for the past few years. He has helped me buy and stopped me from buying numerous cards from dealers on the floor. Greg has a fantastic eye. He's taught me a lot of stuff, too.

(He has also pioneered an effective security system to prevent further thefts in White Plains.)

Not sure an endorsement from David is helping you all things considered. Also I thought you were selling your booth?

[lowpopper]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Not sure an endorsement from David is helping you all things considered. Also I thought you were selling your booth?

Endorsements are moot as far as I'm concerned. This is
a FREE service being offered for the good of the card
community. It seems like a lot of collectors could use this
FREE service considering all the concern regarding alterations.
Why not have an extra line of defense? It's FREE



Dave, thanks for the compliments. You are always
a pleasure to chat with at the shows. Look forward
to seeing you this week in Chicago!

[swabie2424]

I’m creating a service that puts a small aqua sticker on the purple sticker on the slab. It indicates that I have discussed your card with my mother and certified it as part of awesome discussion.

Actually, jokes aside, since it’s a free service I think it’s a-ok!

[HolyGrail]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Not sure an endorsement from David is helping you all things considered. Also I thought you were selling your booth?

Hi Scott. Maybe you ought to read the article Greg linked to before excreting the sarcasm endemic to this site . How would you like it if you're $30K Clemente were stolen? You think that's funny? Do you also get a laugh from Greg's $8,000-$10,000 Mantle being swiped at last year's National?

[TheBig6]

Would this be considered fourth party grading?

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by HolyGrail

Hi Scott. Maybe you ought to read the article Greg linked to before excreting the sarcasm endemic to this site . How would you like it if you're $30K Clemente were stolen? You think that's funny? Do you also get a laugh from Greg's $8,000-$10,000 Mantle being swiped at last year's National?

Not sure what being robbed has to do with anything I said. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy, which Greg is not. There was no sarcasm whatsoever in my post. I don't know if the endorsement of someone who at the very least had the appearance of being in bed with PWCC is good for a new business. Sorry if you don't like it, but I'm far from the only one who feels that way.

[Just.Rachel]

Oh crud, in a couple years time we'll be seeing slabs with Burger King advertisements on them. Quick, somebody shove the genie back in the bottle!

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[kateighty]

Originally Posted by Just.Rachel

Oh crud, in a couple years time we'll be seeing slabs with Burger King advertisements on them. Quick, somebody shove the genie back in the bottle!

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For someone who doesn't know much about cards, you sure seem to know a lot about slabs and the National, enough to call it the Natty. Interesting. Yet my name was wrongly and falsely inserted in all of this mess.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by kateighty

For someone who doesn't know much about cards, you sure seem to know a lot about slabs and the National, enough to call it the Natty. Interesting. Yet my name was wrongly and falsely inserted in all of this mess.

Kat, why are you questioning the integrity of a female? Isn't this PRECISELY why you have chosen (and yes, it is a choice) to be offended? I wonder how many dudes YOU have questioned lately, over the use of the word "Natty."

Your comment above sure looks sexist to me...........

Rachel didn't accuse you of anything - she was being accused. And from what you stated earlier, she was the one nice enough to let you know what was happening. Why turn on HER, of all people?

You are choosing to be offended over nothing, and you are treating an innocent person exactly as you were treated. Does that make you feel better?

[Just.Rachel]

There's definitely room for product placement tailored to specific players...

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