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View Poll Results: What do you think of this PSA slabbed Ty Cobb signature?
It is an exact replication of Ron K's Ty Cobb autograph 43 75.44%
It is a very similar, but totally different autograph as the owner has claimed 5 8.77%
Undecided 9 15.79%
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Old 04-19-2012, 10:34 AM
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I am sure Donavon is a busy man but you would think that by now he mght have taken a moment to respond further to this thread.
I guess he has no adequate response about the Ty Cobb cut and the mystery story of the amazing forger will have no further explanation.
Donavon if you have been too busy to respond here,we understand. But we are hopeful that a response will be forthcoming at some time in the near future.
In the meantime I am glad I don't own an autograph that resides in a plastic tomb.
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Kindly move this thread to the new forum. That is why it was created.
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Kindly move this thread to the new forum. That is why it was created.
Amen to that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 04-19-2012, 03:28 PM
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Donavon will not do anything. he promises but then renegs. it was all in the can from the beginning.

Still looking forward to those ted williams sigs 5 weeks after he promised them. He claims he is busy and that is suppose to be an excuse until the end of time.

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Old 04-19-2012, 04:46 PM
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Kindly move this thread to the new forum. That is why it was created.
If I knew how to do it and was authorized,I would be happy to do it.
I suggest you send a PM to a mod or to Leon.
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It is my opinion that the cut was never sent back to PSA/DNA to begin with. I think the whole story was concocted. If it were true, they would have already removed the cert from their database by now.

A few years ago, the card pictured below was listed on eBay and was the topic of a thread on the PSA boards. Yes, PSA really graded that card a 10. Of course all the PSA apologists wanted to make excuses such as it was a mechanical error or the card was switched out, blah, blah, blah. PSA contacted the dealer and wanted the card back. If I remember correctly, PSA and the dealer couldn't agree on terms and the seller refused to give it back. So, PSA simply removed the card from their database - kind of like sweeping the problem under the rug. I don't know where the card is today or if PSA ever obtained possession of it, but my point is that PSA pulled the cert immediately because of the attention it drew. Likewise, they would have done the same thing in the case with the Cobb cut. I just don't believe the whole story.

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Wow! Pretty amazing that it is still in the database of PSA.
I had not thought to check that out but that is eye opening.
What to think of Donavon now?
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Anyone contact PSA and ask them if they received it or not. If he did never send it in, watch it be sold then.
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Anyone contact PSA and ask them if they received it or not. If he did never send it in, watch it be sold then.
I doubt if PSA would reveal that kind of information to a stranger on the telephone.
This whole thing is now fishier than ever.
We have our own little Cobb cut-gate here.
The aftermath always seems to be worse than the actual event.
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While I believe that Richard and Travis (neither of whom I know) have the better side of this argument, the lesson for me is to avoid autographs altogether.

When an expert like David can be deceived by a Yankee ball with numerous (apparently) forged autographs, and a reputable (albeit imperfect) grading company can be deceived by a photocopy, it is time for mere mortals like myself to find another hobby.
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While I believe that Richard and Travis (neither of whom I know) have the better side of this argument, the lesson for me is to avoid autographs altogether.

When an expert like David can be deceived by a Yankee ball with numerous (apparently) forged autographs, and a reputable (albeit imperfect) grading company can be deceived by a photocopy, it is time for mere mortals like myself to find another hobby.
Mark - I suggest you look at the "good news" autograph thread. That is why we autograph collectors collect.
It is very easy to amass a good collection, as I have said many times before.
Stay with the good dealers and chances are you can amass a quality collection with a very good chance of everything you own being authentic.
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While I believe that Richard and Travis (neither of whom I know) have the better side of this argument, the lesson for me is to avoid autographs altogether.

When an expert like David can be deceived by a Yankee ball with numerous (apparently) forged autographs, and a reputable (albeit imperfect) grading company can be deceived by a photocopy, it is time for mere mortals like myself to find another hobby.
+1....I'll stick to tickets, publications, and cards
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