t206 red cobb oversized but deemed trimmed???

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Posted By: bigfish

I have a t206 red cobb that was deemed trimmed by psa. The card is oversized and not trimmed. It does have a slight slant at the top that looks fishy but is not trimmed in anyway. I submitted 5 t206 to psa. 4 graded 5 or 6. All 4 are shorter that my cobb. Can anyone explain the logic here? Should I send the card to a particular company?

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Posted By: joe

These grading companies are difficult to figure out. I took my 4 different Cobb poses, to a show in California, Hollywood park I think about 6 or 7 years ago. Psa graded the Red Portrait vg-ex 4, but said they could not grade the other 3 because they were cut from a sheet? Aren't they all cut from a sheet? the ones they would not grade were cut a little different larger borders top or bottom. I sent them to SGC and they graded them. Bat off vg-ex 50, bat on ex+ 70 and green ex+ 70.

Joe

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Posted By: Josh K.

If its a potentially high grade cobb, oversize and deemed to be trimmed, I would say we have a prime soak, press, roll and trim candidate.

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Posted By: bigfish

not sure how to do that and would not wnt to mess up the card. It should be a 6. Guess I will sell it to someone who knows how to do this

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Posted By: Hal Lewis

I think Josh was saying that it has already been soaked and stretched.

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Posted By: cmoking

When someone soaks, presses and trims a card, does the thickness of the card decrease? and by how much?

I would assume the thickness of the card must decrease, and had hoped that would enough to catch it (at least from the grading companies' perspective), but maybe that is not the case.

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Posted By: T206Collector

...T206 cards of varying thicknesses. But in any event, when you soak and press one of them, it doesn't get any less thick.

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Posted By: Andy McKay

I would imagine that is you soak and roll, in addition to pressing, you would change the dimensions (length and thickness). I think this goes a little beyond soaking a card to get some glue off and drying it between some paper under a few books.

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Posted By: Brian

Maybe it was dropped in a bath tub or left out in the rain...

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Posted By: Hal Lewis

Nah.

From what it sounds like, the water alone doesn't change the size of the card....

and sticking the card under a book to dry doesn't change the size of the card.

BUT...

apparently there is some other method where you can soak the card and then ST-R-E-T-CH it by pressing it out with some sort of mechanical force press machine?

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Posted By: T206Collector

...many oversized T206 cards are improperly trimmed and still remain oversized.

But, the card that you are describing just sounds like a bad factory cut. I have one or two of those that SGC has no problem slabbing. Here's an example (and it originally was in a PSA 5 holder before I had it crossed over successfully):

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Posted By: bigfish

looks exactly like that crawford. I guess I will send it in to SGC to see if I can get a 5. The card looks like a 6. Thanks for all the help here. I don't belicve the card has been soaked, pressed, kicked, rolled and steamed. Just a bad factory cut.

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Posted By: tbob

Speaking of which, I have a gorgeous M116 blue background Bresnahan which I thought would be an 80 or 84 and which SGC returned because it was "sheet cut." Still trying to figure that one out...