What Would It Take?

Archive · #1 10-21-2008, 03:04 PM

Posted By: Bruce Dorskind

Each of us has one "showcase" item in our collection.

The item that has both significant financial, and in many
cases ,sentimental value.

However, as young Billy Mastro told us some 30 years, remember
its just a piece of "old cardboard."

Our question is what is that item and what would it take (in trade or
cash) to motivate you to let it go.

Sort of our own answer to the Four Base Hits that someone we all know
and respect sold less than a year ago.

Our item is our uncut sheet of 1912 Boston Garters.
It can be yours if the price is right.

Which in our case is $250,000 or the Anson-Ewing Beer Sign and the Goodwin Champions Sign

Now tell us what your killer item is and what it would take to obtain it
(cash or trade)

Thanks

Bruce Dorskind
America's Toughest Want List

Archive · #2 10-21-2008, 03:09 PM

Posted By: Paul

Bruce,

Is your uncut sheet of Boston Garters the advertising poster that shows two Boston Garters? Or is it a full uncut sheet of Boston Garters? Can you post a scan or a photo? Thanks.

Archive · #3 10-21-2008, 03:13 PM

Posted By: Bruce Dorskind

It is full 1912 uncut sheet -only one known- four player-displayed
in several books

Leon once displayed the Chase card from the sheet.

Can not be scanned- too large

Bruce Dorskind
America's Toughest Want List

Archive · #4 10-21-2008, 03:23 PM

Posted By: Steve

Okay Bruce, but I've got a different value system from Mr Mastro -in regards to my one showcase item anyway. My 1968 Opeechee Bobby Orr has immense sentimental value (only item left from my childhood collection)and has some cash value, but will never sell while I still breathe. He was my idol. However, all the other stuff in my armpit collection could be had cheaply if times became too tough.

Archive · #5 10-21-2008, 03:25 PM

Posted By: JimCrandell

1933 Goudey Sport Kings complete set--all cards PSA 8 or 8.5.

$400,000

Archive · #6 10-21-2008, 03:41 PM

Posted By: Jeff Prizner

e107 Joss, Waddell & Plank... $20k

Archive · #7 10-21-2008, 04:08 PM

Posted By: barrysloate

This is sort of a rich man's B/S/T.

Archive · #8 10-21-2008, 04:13 PM

Posted By: Dave F

T206 Bobby Wallace portrait SGC 30 $80.

"This is sort of a rich man's BST" Touche Barry.

Archive · #9 10-21-2008, 04:15 PM

Posted By: barrysloate

I like the working man's B/S/T better anyway.

Archive · #10 10-21-2008, 04:20 PM

Posted By: Dan Paradis

Steve, what if you were offered $100,000,000 for the Bobby Orr.
In other words, there has to be some amount of money that would
allow you to sell it (which is what Bruce's thread is all about).

Everything I own (my memorabilia, car, house, etc.) is for sale (except my wife and kids).
I may not have anything for sale right now, but that would change quickly for the right price.

Dan

Archive · #11 10-21-2008, 04:45 PM

Posted By: Joe D.

my 1903 Astoria Giants card......

a trade.....
would have to include an e107 Wagner.

cash?
I dunno.... $100K cash in a duffle bag would probably tempt me.

Archive · #12 10-21-2008, 04:51 PM

Posted By: Anonymous

Like Steve, my item is also hockey related.

Mark Messier was my favorite athlete growing up. Bought his 80-81 OPC RC when I was 8 years old. It was the pride of my collection for years. It's in EX condition and I'd sell it for $700.

It's nothing more than a coincidence that $700 is the exact amount I paid for a Gem Mint Messier RC earlier this year.

Archive · #13 10-21-2008, 04:54 PM

Posted By: Steve

Dan, That is tempting, but I got enough money and just enough 'luxuries'. I've reached my humble pinnacle and need nothing. I can see how my reply to Bruce sounds like some weird BS... Shameless plug Please take a look at my blog sometime. It may help those to understand.

http://sawxheads.com/blog/51398/18684

Archive · #14 10-21-2008, 04:58 PM

Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

Joe, I've got two Tardy the Clown rookie cards which I'll be sending over to you via messenger. Please hand him back that 1903 Giants card.

Archive · #15 10-21-2008, 05:07 PM

Posted By: Dan Paradis

Steve:
Interesting, we're the same age (and I started following the Red Sox in 1967). I was a huge Yaz and Tony C fan.
I sold my computer software company during the internet bubble and also need nothing.

However, with the right amount of money you could help a lot of people (or more people). There are so many
ways (or more ways) to help family, friends, neighbors, the homeless, the needy, etc. with that kind of money.

I'm a little skeptical, but I guess I'll believe you.

Dan

Archive · #16 10-21-2008, 05:18 PM

Posted By: JimB

E93 complete set nm/mt. Make an offer.
JimB

Archive · #17 10-21-2008, 05:20 PM

Posted By: anthony

Dan,

Wives come and go, kids are always yours. Had I known I'd be divorced after 9 years of marriage, I would of traded my x-wife for an '82 Donruss San Diego Chicken, any grade.

As for my whole collection of 8 cards, I suppose I'd trade/sell any of them for at least 10% above what I paid.

Archive · #18 10-21-2008, 05:21 PM

Posted By: James Gallo

I have wondered about this myself.

I don't have any super high card items, but I do have any high dollar Star Wars items, however I don't think this can really be answered unless you were honestly presented with the chance and a true real offer.

As for cards I have a beat to hell 1915 CJ Joe Jackson, maybe worth 2K, but it was bought for me by my grandmother after each of my parents refused. I honestly think I will take this to my grave and I really wouldn't sell it for any amount of money it has to much history and sentimental value to me.

I have a few toy items worth around 25K that are one of a kind items and are the cornerstone pieces in my collection. I think there would be a point I would have to sell it, maybe $500,000. As said I could do a lot more with that money then it would be worth to keep it. Then again I do ever expect to get an offer at even 100,000 so I don't think I will need to make that decision.

If all went to hell, there are a lot of things I could and would sell before these key items.

James G

Looking for 1915 Cracker Jacks and 1909-11 American Caramel E90-1.

Archive · #19 10-21-2008, 05:25 PM

Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

Jim, my offer -- there won't be any money -- but when you die, on your deathbed you will receive total consciousness.

Archive · #20 10-21-2008, 05:42 PM

Posted By: Craig W

Bruce,

Is this your Boston Garter? If so, it is magnificent

Archive · #21 10-21-2008, 05:48 PM

Posted By: boxingcardman

"We've already established what you are, ma'am. Now we're just haggling over the price."

I would say that generally, it would take either life-altering money or something I wanted more to pry my favorite items out of my hands. What we are 'haggling' over is the degree of disparity I would need to justify the deal. Let's take my E211 Ray Miller as an example. No one else has one; so far as I know, I have the sole surviving specimen of the card, and there is the family thing to consider. If you offered me $5,000 for it I would keep the card. If you offered me $5 million for it I'd not only take it, I'd hand deliver it to you in gift wrapping. The price at which I'd really part with it is somewhere in between. I can say that I've traded off a couple of my "untouchable" items in the past and have been sorry every time, even though I have objectively gotten the "better" of the deal, so before I do another one, I would really have to be at such a huge advantage that there would be no seller's remorse possible later.

Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc

Archive · #22 10-21-2008, 05:50 PM

Posted By: Jeff Mohler

I guess my favorite cards would be the three Pinkerton postcards that I picked up at an estate auction in the first few months that I was collecting cards. They are Tinker, Jennings and Rucker, graded SGC 10, 10 and 20, respectively. However, they are the only "find" that I ever made which brought new cards into the hobby.

I guess I would let them go for around $1,500.00, but I don't know where or when I could replace them. The other thing is that I am going for a complete set of Pinkertons and selling them would defeat the purpose of collecting them all.

Archive · #23 10-21-2008, 05:58 PM

Posted By: anthony

"...The other thing is that I am going for a complete set of Pinkertons and selling them would defeat the purpose of collecting them all..."

true statement, especially if it were one of those sets you spend years on completing.

Archive · #24 10-21-2008, 06:01 PM

Posted By: JimB

"Jim, my offer -- there won't be any money -- but when you die, on your deathbed you will receive total consciousness."

LOL - Jeff, If that offer were doctrinally accurate, I would probably take it - presuming you could follow through - but of course that would make it doctrinally inaccurate.

How's that for a response that enables me to keep my set? However, I do love the reference.
JimB

Archive · #25 10-21-2008, 06:54 PM

Posted By: barrysloate

Craig- that is Bruce's Boston Garter.

Archive · #26 10-21-2008, 07:07 PM

Posted By: john/z28jd

I think a lot of people have items that they say they wouldn't sell for anything knowing full well that offer would never come because the actual value is low. I always said my first t206 card, a GOOD condition Roger Bresnahan portrait I've now had for longer than I haven't had it, is a card that couldn't be bought. Realistically no one in their right mind,even an extremely rich person would offer enough to make me change my mind but I wouldn't turn down an amount of money that could help everyone in my family. So basically the card won't be going anywhere but technically it could be bought by a crazy rich person who just wants to prove that everyone has a price.

I have a lot of cards that fall into that category and some of them have very low values,like who would really want my first Carlton Fisk rookie in vg condition? You could offer 1000x its value(for some unknown reason) and you're not getting it,but why would you when you could have a 1000 of them for that price!

Archive · #27 10-21-2008, 07:15 PM

Posted By: Brian T.

"...but when you die, on your deathbed you will receive total consciousness."

"So, I've got that going for me."

Great movie reference. Thanks for the levity!

Archive · #28 10-21-2008, 07:54 PM

Posted By: frank foremny

would trade my shoeless joe jackson sterling silver candy tray with the letter J etched in [ from joe jackson's home ] for a single signed Babe Ruth ball , thank you , frank

Archive · #29 10-21-2008, 09:11 PM

Posted By: Tim

I don’t have nearly the caliber of collections of many on this board but of my items the one that I would have the most difficulty parting with without a great offer is my set of six Ty Cobb original glass negatives where he is receiving golf lessons. The fact that arguably the greatest hitter of all time in baseball would need pointers on how to hit a golf ball shows the humility golf can bring upon us all.

Archive · #30 10-21-2008, 09:16 PM

Posted By: Bob

Autographed Matty ball. Will never sell.

Archive · #31 10-21-2008, 10:07 PM

Posted By: Fred C

John,

I'll offer you an N172 Larry Corcoran card and $100 cash. I bet you don't have one of those babies yet!

Archive · #32 10-21-2008, 11:03 PM

Posted By: William Cohon

I'm not a high roller, and I know everything has its price. Still, I'd have a hard time parting with my 1936 World Wide Gum Phil Weintraub card. It just took me so dang long to find one that I really thought I never would!

Archive · #33 10-22-2008, 12:25 AM

Posted By: Ricky Y

I have two display pieces - Reach Glove Sign of Frankie Frisch and Die Cut Granger Pipe Tobacco sign of Ducky Medwick that I know I won't be able to buy now for what I paid for them. Maybe 3-4X value and I'll consider parting with them.

Ricky Y

Archive · #34 10-22-2008, 06:50 AM

Posted By: Greg Theberge

You can have anything in my collection for two round trip tickets to Newark, NJ.

And people wonder why there was so much grief given in that other thread...what a character

Archive · #35 10-22-2008, 06:55 AM

Posted By: Joe D.

Greg T.....

I know you have too cool of a collection to accept that kind of offer.

But... if you want to box up all of your Red Sox memorabilia..... I will gladly send you two tickets to Newark.

Archive · #36 10-22-2008, 06:57 AM

Posted By: john/z28jd

Fred,you can keep the $100 and I'll give you a high grade Al Myers card in return for your ratty Corcoran....C'mon,his nickname is Cod! You keep telling me you wanted a nice Cod piece,well here's your chance

Archive · #37 10-22-2008, 07:03 AM

Posted By: Joe D.

Jeff,

You don't have any tardy the clown cards to offer.

Now if you had the entire set.... I would feel compelled to consider that trade.

Especially if you threw albino Chase back to me (why the hell did I let that one go!?!)

Archive · #38 10-22-2008, 07:21 AM

Posted By: Dan Koteles

mine would be a raw T200 Detroit that should grade at least an SGC 84.

or my very best (2) Tinker ports with Jumbo and centered boarders

edited to add: Detroit T200 6k

and Bruce you are a lucky feller (not Bob) to have that panel of Garters, my hat is off to you on that one.If I ever make it to the screen save it , i will take it !

Archive · #39 10-22-2008, 07:30 AM

Posted By: Brian

$2,749,999.99 gets my entire collection

If using paypal, please add 3%

Archive · #40 10-22-2008, 07:34 AM

Posted By: Tony Andrea

My E90-1 complete set, #3 on Sgc's registry with an average grade of 50+, complete with the Jackson rookie in a 40 holder would be available for discussion at $135K.
Never thought I'd say that but since the question was asked.

Tony A.

Archive · #41 10-22-2008, 09:59 AM

Posted By: Greg Theberge

Joe,

For the ENTIRE collection, those tickets have got to get me at least to Philly.

Maybe it's me, but isn't this just another forum to show how great I am and how much my thing is worth financially? Personally, I find the question (and many others by Bruce/Bruces) repugnant.

How about a thread of what I did today that helped somebody else out ... ah, nevermind, it's all about the freakin' dollar.

Greg

Archive · #42 10-22-2008, 10:08 AM

Posted By: Bruce Dorskind

The thread asked a simple question - what is your best item
and at what price would you sell it?

Clearly, you don't have anything worth selling or, in this
case anything worth saying

We find the general tenor of your posts to be repugnant
Of course we don't give a dam anyway

If you want to be helped ask for a government bailout.

Bruce Dorskind
America's Toughest Wn

Archive · #43 10-22-2008, 10:19 AM

Posted By: Jimi

What the heck...I'll play along. I don't have a specific card, but I do have about 80% of the T222 Fatima set and in pretty nice shape all in SGC holders. Selling it would be tough, and it would have to be at least $15,000. Those HOFers and SPs can be costly!

Jimi

Archive · #44 10-22-2008, 10:30 AM

Posted By: Greg Theberge

For those in New England who are familiar with WEEI Sports Talk Radio and the Big "O"...

"Bruce, you're makin' my point"

Just disgusting

Archive · #45 10-22-2008, 10:57 AM

Posted By: Joe D.

"Clearly, you don't have anything worth selling or, in this
case anything worth saying"

Bruce.... you are making a false assumption.

Greg T has incredible stuff.
An awesome collection.

Beyond that.... I assumed the spirit of your post was not the 'worth' in market terms, but 'worth' in personal terms.
Reading your response to Greg T, I guess I made a false assumption.

Brian.... paypal add 3%. My vote for best post in the thread.

Archive · #46 10-22-2008, 11:17 AM

Posted By: leon

Is that with, or without, shipping/insurance included?

Archive · #47 10-22-2008, 12:05 PM

Posted By: Anonymous

"$2,749,999.99 gets my entire collection. If using paypal, please add 3%"

Brian, that's damned funny stuff. Thanks.

I think this thread is kind of fun; I sure didn't get that self-aggrandizing thing from it.

Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc

Archive · #48 10-22-2008, 12:22 PM

Posted By: Jim VB

I thought this was a great thread also. Some people look for a negative side in anything Bruce writes. I think he knows it, and likes to start a little trouble from time to time.

I didn't think this was one of those times.

Archive · #49 10-22-2008, 12:28 PM

Posted By: S Gross

"Someone asked me ... if my club was for sale. What a ridiculous question. Of course it is for sale. So is my hat and my overcoat, and my watch. Anyone who wants them can have them at a price."

H. Harrison Frazee, owner Boston Red Sox, 1917.

"Sounds about right"

J. Scott Gross, net54 forum, 2008

Archive · #50 10-22-2008, 12:33 PM

Posted By: Dan Paradis

Joe D:
Before we give Brian the vote for best response (" .... Paypal add 3%"), don't forget Anthony's response:

"Wives come and go, kids are always yours. Had I known I'd be divorced after 9 years of marriage, I would of traded my x-wife for an '82 Donruss San Diego Chicken, any grade."

Both are funny and what makes this a great thread.

Dan