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Old 05-31-2019, 08:21 AM
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And Thank You Ryan for the kind words regarding the Wagner, it certainly is a great centerpiece as is the Cobb/Cobb PSA 4.5!
Which brings a higher hammer -- a T206 Wagner PSA 2 or a PSA 4.5 Cobb/Cobb Back? Thats a toughie, but I sure cant wait to see!
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Old 05-31-2019, 08:30 AM
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I think Wags all day long.... but we will see.
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Which brings a higher hammer -- a T206 Wagner PSA 2 or a PSA 4.5 Cobb/Cobb Back? Thats a toughie, but I sure cant wait to see!
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Old 05-31-2019, 08:42 AM
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I think Wagner will go highest just because it is sooooo iconic but the Cobb will go for a stupid amount as well. 2 really big hitters in one auction!
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Old 05-31-2019, 09:17 AM
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I likewise would love to own the Wagner. As I don't think my government pension will stretch, I will be relying on Powerball.
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Old 05-31-2019, 09:25 AM
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Which brings a higher hammer -- a T206 Wagner PSA 2 or a PSA 4.5 Cobb/Cobb Back? Thats a toughie, but I sure cant wait to see!
no contest...the wagner will double the hammer of the cobb.
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Old 05-31-2019, 10:33 AM
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no contest...the wagner will double the hammer of the cobb.

I don't know that the Wagner will go for double the Cobb. IIRC, the PSA 4.5 is the highest-graded Cobb back, and it came from the "Lucky-7" find.

I think both will hit the $1M mark.

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Steve, I agree with you. I think the Wagner goes for more, but the highest graded Cobb/Cobb with the Lucky 7 provenance is very worthy indeed. I think they both go over $1mm, the Wagner sells for a bid or two more, and they both land somewhere in the $1mm-$1.2mm range. Then again, I was confident that my max amount would be sufficient to be the high bidder on the Type 2 W600 Wagner that was in the last Heritage Auction, and I got totally blown out of the water (not even close), so my predictions are very fallible!
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Old 05-31-2019, 11:39 AM
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My guess is that neither hits the reserve, presuming the reserve bid is 80% of the purchase price.
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I'll take under $1 million for the Cobb/Cobb. I think you guys are delusional.
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I'll take under $1 million for the Cobb/Cobb. I think you guys are delusional.
It has already sold for more than $1 million once.
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It has already sold for more than $1 million once.
It purported to have sold over a million. Just like the Wagner was “recently sold for $1.2M” after which it was disclosed it was sold months ago. I don’t believe either price is real. And no shot Cobb back 4.5 approaches $1M, Wagner probably low 1s.
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Garbage card, garbage set.

Give me a Voskamps or a Gilmartin.
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It purported to have sold over a million. Just like the Wagner was “recently sold for $1.2M” after which it was disclosed it was sold months ago. I don’t believe either price is real. And no shot Cobb back 4.5 approaches $1M, Wagner probably low 1s.
Yeah, I'm with you. Very skeptical the Cobb hits $1m this time. And definitely think Wagner goes for more.
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Old 05-31-2019, 05:07 PM
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Am I the only one that thinks the card looks different from one holder to the next? Pretty obviously the same card, and could just be Photoshop but the card in the original PSA 2 holder looks much dirtier, among other things.
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Is anyone else out there hoping that the winner of this card comes from New York or California, buys the card, and has it shipped to "The Vault" instead of paying state sales taxes? I think that would be fun.
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I suspect Brent will be hiding out in the Vault very shorty.
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Old 06-24-2019, 07:58 PM
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The cards were consigned to the auction, we did not purchase the two cards.
Paging Mr. Drent. Can you cancel all of your Moser submissions in this auction?
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$1.2M seems pretty ho hum to me in an age of Tom Brady and Mike Trout cards going for $400k. It would be interesting to see Wagner prices charted with other 6+ figure cards as well as inflation. I feel like $1M buys so laughably little now compared to even 20 years ago. This Wagner sale seems like one of the best values in the hobby right now.
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I'm looking forward to seeing what these assets will sell for
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Interesting that someone would pay over 50% above the last sale and then immediately consign it to an auction where a 20% buyers premium is tacked on and expect to make money. With all due respect to a Brian, it also seems strange that if one was taking such a big risk that they would not consign the card to either Heritage or REA where the catalogs would reach the most potential bidders..
I'm 99 percent sure the consignor will recieve a rebate back on the buyers premium. For a high dollar card like this, 12-15 percent would be my guess. Plus, a reserve around 850-1m wouodn't be to shocking to see. Do, you really think the card was bought for 1.2m? I say no.

If the card sells, the chance the new owner even knows about this board or any board is slim because its a social statis card and appeals to other people with deep pockets who we wouodn't classify as a collector.
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