Another Trivia Question.

[cammb]

Who was baseballs first "Hold Out"

[mrreality68]

Was it ty cobb?

I think he held out for like $4k in the early 1910’s.

[Bram99]

Originally Posted by cammb

Who was baseballs first "Hold Out"

Ty Cobb in 1913?

[molenick]

Without checking details, I recall something about Amos Rusie holding out. Not sure what year it was.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by cammb

Who was baseballs first "Hold Out"

I hope it wasn't McWeeny..............

[cammb]

Originally Posted by molenick

Without checking details, I recall something about Amos Rusie holding out. Not sure what year it was.

Getting close.

[molenick]

After doing some research, I see Rusie held out for all of 1896, so I guess it's someone before that (duh). No one comes to mind, but I will keep trying.

[darwinbulldog]

Mullane?

[charlietheexterminator]

Bernie Meyer

[Mark]

King Kelly?

[cammb]

Originally Posted by darwinbulldog

Mullane?

No

[cammb]

Originally Posted by charlietheexterminator

Bernie Meyer

No

[chadeast]

Originally Posted by Mark

King Kelly?

Great guess. I'm going to say Brouthers.

[cammb]

Originally Posted by Mark

King Kelly?

No

[judsonhamlin]

I’ll go Monte Ward, but only because Mullane was wrong

[clydepepper]

+1 - Ward is who I had in mind...just not quite fast enough.


or...perhaps...Jim Devlin?

[Kidnapped18]

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[chadeast]

Do we have any Players League experts here? I'm thinking there's a decent chance that this could have been one of the precursors to the formation of the league.

[cammb]

I will post the answer tomorrow

[5-Tool Player]

Tyrus Raymond Cobb

[cammb]

The answer is Joe Gerhardt. In 1884, he turned down an offer of $1800. He then was offered $2000. Instead, he accepted the $1800 and demanded carte blanche at the bar in the Louisville stadium . The owners gladly accepted. Reading up on Gerhardt, He was not a good hitter but was considered the best second baseman defensively of his time.

[Kidnapped18]

George Wright, who had been the greatest player in the land for a decade, with the Red Stockings of Cincinnati and then Boston, in 1879 led the Providence Grays to the championship. On April 21, 1880, however, he declined the club’s final contract offer, perhaps preferring to stay in Boston and mind his sporting-goods business. As a reserved player, however, he was obligated to play for Providence and no other; he elected to sit out the season (although he did inexplicably play in a game for Boston on May 29).


From John Thorn's Baseball in the Garden of Eden

[chadeast]

Originally Posted by cammb

The answer is Joe Gerhardt. In 1884, he turned down an offer of $1800. He then was offered $2000. Instead, he accepted the $1800 and demanded carte blanche at the bar in the Louisville stadium . The owners gladly accepted. Reading up on Gerhardt, He was not a good hitter but was considered the best second baseman defensively of his time.

That's funny! I know that Bid McPhee was/is widely regarded as the best defensive second basemen of the 19th century, but it looks like Joe's career preceded Bid's by a good 10 years or so. Thanks for that bit of history.

[cammb]

Originally Posted by Kidnapped18

George Wright, who had been the greatest player in the land for a decade, with the Red Stockings of Cincinnati and then Boston, in 1879 led the Providence Grays to the championship. On April 21, 1880, however, he declined the club’s final contract offer, perhaps preferring to stay in Boston and mind his sporting-goods business. As a reserved player, however, he was obligated to play for Providence and no other; he elected to sit out the season (although he did inexplicably play in a game for Boston on May 29).


From John Thorn's Baseball in the Garden of Eden

I think that Wright was a free agent at the time. While checking out George Wright, I discovered that he was the first National League Batter.